Hi,
On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 12:31 PM, Werner Keil <werner.keil_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> For JSR 375 we we were informed, a Kk Sriramadhesikan, who is not a
> member of the JSR 375 EG and we never heard of before ("KK" to many
> probably sounds more like an author of fantasy novels;-) does a talk on
> Security for Java EE 8 and the Cloud.
>
I've had a minimal amount of contact with Kk Sriramadhesikan, and looked a
little into his work. From what I got he's quite knowledgeable on this
subject and overall a nice person, so my hopes are up for that one ;)
Kind regards,
Arjan Tijms
>
> And Dmitry beside the JSON-B talk also outlines Oracle's ideas for a
> Cloud-based Java EE Configuration service. I heard, he reached out to
> others who have their own talk on the subject (and based their work on
> ideas for standardization presented by others at Oracle some years ago) so
> it seems there's interest to keep this standard-based an under the Java EE
> umbrella in most cases. Which I'd say is a good prospect.
>
>
> Werner
>
> On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 11:15 AM, <users-request_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Table of contents:
>>
>> 1. [jax-rs-spec users] Re: [javaee-spec users] [jsr366-experts] update to
>> Java EE 8 plan - "Markus KARG" <markus_at_headcrashing.eu>
>> 2. [jax-rs-spec users] Re: [javaee-spec users] [jsr366-experts] update to
>> Java EE 8 plan - Sergey Beryozkin <sberyozkin_at_talend.com>
>> 3. [jax-rs-spec users] Re: [javaee-spec users] [jsr366-experts] update to
>> Java EE 8 plan - Sergey Beryozkin <sberyozkin_at_talend.com>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Markus KARG <markus_at_headcrashing.eu>
>> To: <jsr370-experts_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 18:42:21 +0200
>> Subject: [jax-rs-spec users] Re: [javaee-spec users] [jsr366-experts]
>> update to Java EE 8 plan
>>
>> I wonder why Ed Burns does the talk. He never was part of the JAX-RS
>> inner circle. Also the topic is "suggestions", not "the final answer",
>> which is a bit sad. I expected a talk by Marek about "What definitively
>> will be in the box".
>>
>>
>>
>> Anyways, it is a real pity that few weeks before J1 the JSR 370 Expert
>> Group still was not informed about the updated plan. Seems either Oracle
>> still has no clue what to tell at J1, or they do not think we are worth
>> knowing it before others.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Markus
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Sergey Beryozkin [mailto:sberyozkin_at_talend.com]
>> *Sent:* Montag, 5. September 2016 13:42
>> *To:* jsr370-experts_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net
>> *Subject:* Re: [javaee-spec users] [jsr366-experts] update to Java EE 8
>> plan
>>
>>
>>
>> Interesting I was browsing around for more info about the forthcoming
>> closure of Java.net and found
>>
>> https://oracle.rainfocus.com/scripts/catalog/oow16.jsp?event
>> =javaone&search=Con7983&search.event=javaone
>>
>> So if a JAX-RS 2.1 talk is planned then surely some more activity will
>> likely to happen soon on this list too :-) ?
>>
>> Cheers, Sergey
>> On 23/08/16 17:38, Sergey Beryozkin wrote:
>>
>> I think it means it will live.
>> I'm not worried right now at all about the missed original schedules.
>> We are moving slowly forward, Marek will look at publishing the very 1st
>> early 2.1 API soon, and we will
>> keep moving from there.
>>
>> Good news
>>
>> Sergey
>> On 23/08/16 17:29, Markus KARG wrote:
>>
>> What does that mean for JSR 370? Apparently the original and updated
>> schedules are overdue. Will the JSR get restarted? When? With what
>> particular target functionality?
>>
>>
>>
>> -Markus
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Marek Potociar [mailto:marek.potociar_at_oracle.com
>> <marek.potociar_at_oracle.com>]
>> *Sent:* Dienstag, 23. August 2016 18:16
>> *To:* jsr370-experts_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net; users_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net
>> *Subject:* Fwd: [javaee-spec users] [jsr366-experts] update to Java EE 8
>> plan
>>
>>
>>
>> FYI.
>>
>>
>>
>> Marek
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Bill Shannon <bill.shannon_at_oracle.com>
>>
>> *Subject: [javaee-spec users] [jsr366-experts] update to Java EE 8 plan*
>>
>> *Date: *23 August 2016 at 02:05:23 GMT+2
>>
>> *To: *jsr366-experts_at_javaee-spec.java.net
>>
>> *Reply-To: *jsr366-experts_at_javaee-spec.java.net
>>
>>
>>
>> As many of you have read in the press [1], Oracle is reevaluating the
>> scope and plans for Java EE 8. Based on the changes we've seen in the
>> industry in recent years, we believe we need to do more to Java EE to
>> make it better suited for developing the next generation of cloud
>> and microservices applications.
>>
>> The current generation of enterprise Java applications is already well
>> supported by Java EE 7 in cloud services provided by Oracle and
>> others. As Anil Gaur said in his recent presentation to the JCP EC [2]:
>>
>> We would like the future of Java EE to be viable to next generation
>> of applications. These apps are composed and deployed differently
>> in cloud and require flexibility, reliability and scale. The
>> platform needs a new programming model that's geared towards
>> reactive style programming for building large-scale distributed
>> applications that are loosely coupled. In addition, we would like
>> to see HTTP/2, Config, State management, Eventual Consistency,
>> Multi-tenancy, O-Auth and OpenID Connect get included in the
>> platform.
>>
>> It is critical that Java EE reflect the needs of the community. We are
>> preparing another community survey, similar to the survey we did in
>> 2014 [3], to assess whether the community shares our views about
>> what's needed in Java EE. We expect this survey to be available in
>> the next few weeks. We'll also be looking at the results of other
>> surveys and community input, and will be continuing our discussions
>> with Java EE licensees. At JavaOne we'll be presenting our proposals
>> for updates to Java EE and gathering feedback from attendees.
>>
>> After considering the results of our survey and other feedback, we'll
>> adjust the plans for Java EE 8, with a goal of delivering Java EE 8
>> within a year. Much of the initially planned work is nearly complete
>> or well on its way, but new work will need to be done more quickly than
>> usual. Obviously all desired work will not be able to be done in Java
>> EE 8 and some planned work may no longer be important.
>>
>> This short schedule for Java EE 8 will allow us to move quickly into
>> planning for Java EE 9, which will be able to take advantage of the
>> Java SE 9 Jigsaw module system, and will give us more time for some of
>> the larger improvements to the Java EE programming model.
>>
>> Stay tuned for more information about our community survey, and join us
>> at JavaOne to hear more about our proposals for Java EE.
>>
>> Your opinion is valuable to us and we look forward to collaborating with
>> you.
>>
>>
>> [1]
>> http://www.infoworld.com/article/3098007/java/oracle-to-
>> reboot-java-ee-for-the-cloud.html
>> [2]
>> https://jcp.org/aboutJava/communityprocess/ec-public/materia
>> ls/2016-08-09/August-2016-Public-Minutes.html
>> [3] https://blogs.oracle.com/ldemichiel/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Sergey Beryozkin <sberyozkin_at_talend.com>
>> To: <jsr370-experts_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 20:56:42 +0100
>> Subject: [jax-rs-spec users] Re: [javaee-spec users] [jsr366-experts]
>> update to Java EE 8 plan
>> Markus,
>> The last thing I'm worried about at this stage is that I have not being
>> informed earlier :-). I trust it was not the choice of spec leads not to
>> pause the active dev of this spec. I guess it is obvious the whole process
>> undergoes significant disruptive changes. If Marek gets out the 1st API out
>> to Central I will celebrate (I do believe Marek will do it - he said he
>> would look)
>>
>> Sergey
>>
>> On 06/09/16 17:42, Markus KARG wrote:
>>
>> I wonder why Ed Burns does the talk. He never was part of the JAX-RS
>> inner circle. Also the topic is "suggestions", not "the final answer",
>> which is a bit sad. I expected a talk by Marek about "What definitively
>> will be in the box".
>>
>>
>>
>> Anyways, it is a real pity that few weeks before J1 the JSR 370 Expert
>> Group still was not informed about the updated plan. Seems either Oracle
>> still has no clue what to tell at J1, or they do not think we are worth
>> knowing it before others.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Markus
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Sergey Beryozkin [mailto:sberyozkin_at_talend.com
>> <sberyozkin_at_talend.com>]
>> *Sent:* Montag, 5. September 2016 13:42
>> *To:* jsr370-experts_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net
>> *Subject:* Re: [javaee-spec users] [jsr366-experts] update to Java EE 8
>> plan
>>
>>
>>
>> Interesting I was browsing around for more info about the forthcoming
>> closure of Java.net and found
>>
>> https://oracle.rainfocus.com/scripts/catalog/oow16.jsp?event
>> =javaone&search=Con7983&search.event=javaone
>>
>> So if a JAX-RS 2.1 talk is planned then surely some more activity will
>> likely to happen soon on this list too :-) ?
>>
>> Cheers, Sergey
>> On 23/08/16 17:38, Sergey Beryozkin wrote:
>>
>> I think it means it will live.
>> I'm not worried right now at all about the missed original schedules.
>> We are moving slowly forward, Marek will look at publishing the very 1st
>> early 2.1 API soon, and we will
>> keep moving from there.
>>
>> Good news
>>
>> Sergey
>> On 23/08/16 17:29, Markus KARG wrote:
>>
>> What does that mean for JSR 370? Apparently the original and updated
>> schedules are overdue. Will the JSR get restarted? When? With what
>> particular target functionality?
>>
>>
>>
>> -Markus
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Marek Potociar [mailto:marek.potociar_at_oracle.com
>> <marek.potociar_at_oracle.com>]
>> *Sent:* Dienstag, 23. August 2016 18:16
>> *To:* jsr370-experts_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net; users_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net
>> *Subject:* Fwd: [javaee-spec users] [jsr366-experts] update to Java EE 8
>> plan
>>
>>
>>
>> FYI.
>>
>>
>>
>> Marek
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Bill Shannon <bill.shannon_at_oracle.com>
>>
>> *Subject: [javaee-spec users] [jsr366-experts] update to Java EE 8 plan*
>>
>> *Date: *23 August 2016 at 02:05:23 GMT+2
>>
>> *To: *jsr366-experts_at_javaee-spec.java.net
>>
>> *Reply-To: *jsr366-experts_at_javaee-spec.java.net
>>
>>
>>
>> As many of you have read in the press [1], Oracle is reevaluating the
>> scope and plans for Java EE 8. Based on the changes we've seen in the
>> industry in recent years, we believe we need to do more to Java EE to
>> make it better suited for developing the next generation of cloud
>> and microservices applications.
>>
>> The current generation of enterprise Java applications is already well
>> supported by Java EE 7 in cloud services provided by Oracle and
>> others. As Anil Gaur said in his recent presentation to the JCP EC [2]:
>>
>> We would like the future of Java EE to be viable to next generation
>> of applications. These apps are composed and deployed differently
>> in cloud and require flexibility, reliability and scale. The
>> platform needs a new programming model that's geared towards
>> reactive style programming for building large-scale distributed
>> applications that are loosely coupled. In addition, we would like
>> to see HTTP/2, Config, State management, Eventual Consistency,
>> Multi-tenancy, O-Auth and OpenID Connect get included in the
>> platform.
>>
>> It is critical that Java EE reflect the needs of the community. We are
>> preparing another community survey, similar to the survey we did in
>> 2014 [3], to assess whether the community shares our views about
>> what's needed in Java EE. We expect this survey to be available in
>> the next few weeks. We'll also be looking at the results of other
>> surveys and community input, and will be continuing our discussions
>> with Java EE licensees. At JavaOne we'll be presenting our proposals
>> for updates to Java EE and gathering feedback from attendees.
>>
>> After considering the results of our survey and other feedback, we'll
>> adjust the plans for Java EE 8, with a goal of delivering Java EE 8
>> within a year. Much of the initially planned work is nearly complete
>> or well on its way, but new work will need to be done more quickly than
>> usual. Obviously all desired work will not be able to be done in Java
>> EE 8 and some planned work may no longer be important.
>>
>> This short schedule for Java EE 8 will allow us to move quickly into
>> planning for Java EE 9, which will be able to take advantage of the
>> Java SE 9 Jigsaw module system, and will give us more time for some of
>> the larger improvements to the Java EE programming model.
>>
>> Stay tuned for more information about our community survey, and join us
>> at JavaOne to hear more about our proposals for Java EE.
>>
>> Your opinion is valuable to us and we look forward to collaborating with
>> you.
>>
>>
>> [1]
>> http://www.infoworld.com/article/3098007/java/oracle-to-
>> reboot-java-ee-for-the-cloud.html
>> [2]
>> https://jcp.org/aboutJava/communityprocess/ec-public/materia
>> ls/2016-08-09/August-2016-Public-Minutes.html
>> [3] https://blogs.oracle.com/ldemichiel/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Sergey Beryozkin <sberyozkin_at_talend.com>
>> To: <jsr370-experts_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 20:58:25 +0100
>> Subject: [jax-rs-spec users] Re: [javaee-spec users] [jsr366-experts]
>> update to Java EE 8 plan
>> Ouch, extra 'not', should be
>>
>> I trust it was not the choice of spec leads to pause the active dev of
>> this spec
>>
>> On 06/09/16 20:56, Sergey Beryozkin wrote:
>>
>> Markus,
>> The last thing I'm worried about at this stage is that I have not being
>> informed earlier :-). I trust it was not the choice of spec leads not to
>> pause the active dev of this spec. I guess it is obvious the whole process
>> undergoes significant disruptive changes. If Marek gets out the 1st API out
>> to Central I will celebrate (I do believe Marek will do it - he said he
>> would look)
>>
>> Sergey
>>
>> On 06/09/16 17:42, Markus KARG wrote:
>>
>> I wonder why Ed Burns does the talk. He never was part of the JAX-RS
>> inner circle. Also the topic is "suggestions", not "the final answer",
>> which is a bit sad. I expected a talk by Marek about "What definitively
>> will be in the box".
>>
>>
>>
>> Anyways, it is a real pity that few weeks before J1 the JSR 370 Expert
>> Group still was not informed about the updated plan. Seems either Oracle
>> still has no clue what to tell at J1, or they do not think we are worth
>> knowing it before others.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Markus
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Sergey Beryozkin [mailto:sberyozkin_at_talend.com
>> <sberyozkin_at_talend.com>]
>> *Sent:* Montag, 5. September 2016 13:42
>> *To:* jsr370-experts_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net
>> *Subject:* Re: [javaee-spec users] [jsr366-experts] update to Java EE 8
>> plan
>>
>>
>>
>> Interesting I was browsing around for more info about the forthcoming
>> closure of Java.net and found
>>
>> https://oracle.rainfocus.com/scripts/catalog/oow16.jsp?event
>> =javaone&search=Con7983&search.event=javaone
>>
>> So if a JAX-RS 2.1 talk is planned then surely some more activity will
>> likely to happen soon on this list too :-) ?
>>
>> Cheers, Sergey
>> On 23/08/16 17:38, Sergey Beryozkin wrote:
>>
>> I think it means it will live.
>> I'm not worried right now at all about the missed original schedules.
>> We are moving slowly forward, Marek will look at publishing the very 1st
>> early 2.1 API soon, and we will
>> keep moving from there.
>>
>> Good news
>>
>> Sergey
>> On 23/08/16 17:29, Markus KARG wrote:
>>
>> What does that mean for JSR 370? Apparently the original and updated
>> schedules are overdue. Will the JSR get restarted? When? With what
>> particular target functionality?
>>
>>
>>
>> -Markus
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Marek Potociar [mailto:marek.potociar_at_oracle.com
>> <marek.potociar_at_oracle.com>]
>> *Sent:* Dienstag, 23. August 2016 18:16
>> *To:* jsr370-experts_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net; users_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net
>> *Subject:* Fwd: [javaee-spec users] [jsr366-experts] update to Java EE 8
>> plan
>>
>>
>>
>> FYI.
>>
>>
>>
>> Marek
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Bill Shannon <bill.shannon_at_oracle.com>
>>
>> *Subject: [javaee-spec users] [jsr366-experts] update to Java EE 8 plan*
>>
>> *Date: *23 August 2016 at 02:05:23 GMT+2
>>
>> *To: *jsr366-experts_at_javaee-spec.java.net
>>
>> *Reply-To: *jsr366-experts_at_javaee-spec.java.net
>>
>>
>>
>> As many of you have read in the press [1], Oracle is reevaluating the
>> scope and plans for Java EE 8. Based on the changes we've seen in the
>> industry in recent years, we believe we need to do more to Java EE to
>> make it better suited for developing the next generation of cloud
>> and microservices applications.
>>
>> The current generation of enterprise Java applications is already well
>> supported by Java EE 7 in cloud services provided by Oracle and
>> others. As Anil Gaur said in his recent presentation to the JCP EC [2]:
>>
>> We would like the future of Java EE to be viable to next generation
>> of applications. These apps are composed and deployed differently
>> in cloud and require flexibility, reliability and scale. The
>> platform needs a new programming model that's geared towards
>> reactive style programming for building large-scale distributed
>> applications that are loosely coupled. In addition, we would like
>> to see HTTP/2, Config, State management, Eventual Consistency,
>> Multi-tenancy, O-Auth and OpenID Connect get included in the
>> platform.
>>
>> It is critical that Java EE reflect the needs of the community. We are
>> preparing another community survey, similar to the survey we did in
>> 2014 [3], to assess whether the community shares our views about
>> what's needed in Java EE. We expect this survey to be available in
>> the next few weeks. We'll also be looking at the results of other
>> surveys and community input, and will be continuing our discussions
>> with Java EE licensees. At JavaOne we'll be presenting our proposals
>> for updates to Java EE and gathering feedback from attendees.
>>
>> After considering the results of our survey and other feedback, we'll
>> adjust the plans for Java EE 8, with a goal of delivering Java EE 8
>> within a year. Much of the initially planned work is nearly complete
>> or well on its way, but new work will need to be done more quickly than
>> usual. Obviously all desired work will not be able to be done in Java
>> EE 8 and some planned work may no longer be important.
>>
>> This short schedule for Java EE 8 will allow us to move quickly into
>> planning for Java EE 9, which will be able to take advantage of the
>> Java SE 9 Jigsaw module system, and will give us more time for some of
>> the larger improvements to the Java EE programming model.
>>
>> Stay tuned for more information about our community survey, and join us
>> at JavaOne to hear more about our proposals for Java EE.
>>
>> Your opinion is valuable to us and we look forward to collaborating with
>> you.
>>
>>
>> [1]
>> http://www.infoworld.com/article/3098007/java/oracle-to-
>> reboot-java-ee-for-the-cloud.html
>> [2]
>> https://jcp.org/aboutJava/communityprocess/ec-public/materia
>> ls/2016-08-09/August-2016-Public-Minutes.html
>> [3] https://blogs.oracle.com/ldemichiel/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> End of digest for list users_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net - Wed, 07 Sep 2016
>>
>>
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