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Re: jaxm - rpc style...what for

From: Pedro Salazar <pedro-b-salazar_at_PTINOVACAO.PT>
Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 16:32:34 +0100

Anne, thanks for your clarification.

I thought JAXM was like a similar JMS service of messaging but in this
case, through SOAP messages, and like that, I thought it was a
specification requirement the reliability of delivering. But as you said
it isn't.

-- PS

On Fri, 2003-04-04 at 16:07, Anne Thomas Manes wrote:
> A JAXM provider doesn't necessarily provide guaranteed message delivery.
> It's up to the provider to determine which services it provides. (it is
> required to support one-way asynchronous messaging, but that's not the same
> thing as guaranteed message delivery)
>
> And likewise, a JAX-RPC implementation can provide guaranteed message
> delivery. Many JAX-RPC implementations support reliable message transports
> (e.g., JMS). Meanwhile, OASIS WS-RM is defining standard SOAP extensions for
> reliable messaging [1]. And BEA, IBM, Microsoft, and Tibco have also
> published a set of SOAP extensions to support asynchronous messaging [2] and
> message reliability [3]. Both of these specifications can work with JAX-RPC.
>
> [1] http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=wsrm
> [2] http://dev2dev.bea.com/technologies/webservices/ws-addressing.jsp
> [3] http://dev2dev.bea.com/technologies/webservices/ws-reliablemessaging.jsp
>
> Anne
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Public discussion on JAX-RPC
> > [mailto:JAXRPC-INTEREST_at_JAVA.SUN.COM]On Behalf Of Pedro Salazar
> > Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 7:28 AM
> > To: JAXRPC-INTEREST_at_JAVA.SUN.COM
> > Subject: Re: jaxm - rpc style...what for
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Besides the WSDL schema, I think JAXM is more suitable (and powerful) in
> > respect to the delivering of messages. In contrary of JAXRPC, a JAXM
> > implementation provider guarantees the deliver of an SOAP message like
> > JMS do, even the client is off-line.
> >
> > PS
> >
> > On Wed, 2002-11-20 at 16:14, Anne Thomas Manes wrote:
> > > Perhaps you don't have a WSDL description of the service.
> > > You can't use JAX-RPC is you don't have a WSDL file.
> > >
> > > Anne
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Public discussion on JAX-RPC
> > > > [mailto:JAXRPC-INTEREST_at_JAVA.SUN.COM]On Behalf Of Mischa Zurke
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 9:57 AM
> > > > To: JAXRPC-INTEREST_at_JAVA.SUN.COM
> > > > Subject: jaxm - rpc style...what for
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I just read that you can use JAXM to do SOAP-RPC
> > > > using the SOAPConnection class. As far as I understand,
> > > > with this approach you got to manage the whole
> > > > serialization/deserialization of the soap messages
> > > > by your own. So I just wonder why anybody should use
> > > > SOAP-MESSAGING to fulfill a remote method call.
> > > > Does anybody know a good example to justify such an
> > > > approach and not to use JAX-RPC?
> > > > Thanx,
> > > > Mischa
> > > >
> > --
> > PS
> > pedro-b-salazar_at_ptinovacao.pt
> > PGP:0E129E31D803BC61
> >
--
PS
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