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Re: JAXRPC-Commerical Implementation

From: Sam <bytecode_at_Phreaker.net>
Date: Wed, 08 May 2002 10:32:02 -0400

Apaches position
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/jspa-agreement.html

Sun's position
http://jcp.org/aboutJava/communityprocess/announce/LetterofIntent.html



Anne Thomas Manes wrote:
>
> In regards to Tomcat, Sun elected to build the reference implementation at
> Apache, so Apache has full rights to Tomcat and the TCK. The same is true
> for Crimson. As far as I know, Apache has never had to pay Sun to license a
> TCK. But the TCK licensing issue is the reason that J2EE open source
> implementations, such as JBoss and the old Lutris Enhydra app servers were
> never J2EE licensed implementations.
>
> There was a recent change to the JCP bylaws that now provide special
> provisions (i.e., free) for a non-profit organization to license a TCK.
>
> Anne
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Public discussion on JAX-RPC
> > [mailto:JAXRPC-INTEREST_at_JAVA.SUN.COM]On Behalf Of max bocchini
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 10:42 AM
> > To: JAXRPC-INTEREST_at_JAVA.SUN.COM
> > Subject: Re: JAXRPC-Commerical Implementation
> >
> >
> > does that mean that Apache has done the same thing [i.e. pay sun]
> > with regards for tomcat and everything else??
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Anne Thomas Manes" <anne_at_MANES.NET>
> > To: <JAXRPC-INTEREST_at_JAVA.SUN.COM>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 3:20 PM
> > Subject: Re: JAXRPC-Commerical Implementation
> >
> >
> > > The license restriction is defined by Sun and the JCP -- Apache
> > Axis is a
> > > beta implementation of the JAX-RPC API, and hence the distribution must
> > also
> > > reference the JCP license. Apache cannot release a final release of Axis
> > > until the JAX-RPC API is complete and Axis passes the JAX-RPC TCK tests.
> > > (Apache must license the TCK from Sun.) Once that's done, then
> > Apache Axis
> > > could be used in commercial products in accordance with the Apache
> > license.
> > >
> > > Anne
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Public discussion on JAX-RPC
> > > > [mailto:JAXRPC-INTEREST_at_JAVA.SUN.COM]On Behalf Of Deepth Dinesan
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 8:52 AM
> > > > To: JAXRPC-INTEREST_at_JAVA.SUN.COM
> > > > Subject: Re: JAXRPC-Commerical Implementation
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Anne,
> > > >
> > > > I just went thru the Apache-License file and I dont see that it
> > > > doesnt allow
> > > > for commercial use . Am I missing something here ?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Deepth
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