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[jsr372-experts] Re: Expert Group Meeting _at_ JavaOne

From: arjan tijms <arjan.tijms_at_gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 20:08:41 +0200

Hi,

On Monday, October 13, 2014, Josh Juneau <juneau001_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> From a community standpoint, I definitely agree that reduction of
> taglib.xml boilerplate would make taglibs seem less onerous.
>

Absolutely. The issue that btw most closely corresponds to this is this
one: https://java.net/jira/browse/JAVASERVERFACES_SPEC_PUBLIC-1196

Grtz,
Arjan


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> Thanks
>
>
> Josh Juneau
> juneau001_at_gmail.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','juneau001_at_gmail.com');>
> http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
> https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
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> On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Edward Burns <edward.burns_at_oracle.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','edward.burns_at_oracle.com');>> wrote:
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>> >>>>> On Mon, 13 Oct 2014 08:00:05 -0500, Josh Juneau <
>> juneau001_at_gmail.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','juneau001_at_gmail.com');>>
>> said:
>>
>> JJ> I listened to the audio from the expert group meeting at
>> JJ> JavaOne. [...] I was happy to hear that there are others (Neil in
>> JJ> particular) that also would like to see at least one big ticket item
>> JJ> for JSF 2.3.
>>
>> JJ> I feel that it is important to have at least one feature that will
>> catch
>> JJ> the attention of the community [...]
>>
>> JJ> Maybe the big feature could be the "decorate response" phase that was
>> JJ> mentioned in the meeting, or even "increased support for HTTP 2.0",
>> JJ> covering the dispatch priority concerns. Perhaps better integration
>> with
>> JJ> single-page frameworks, as addressed in Ian's presentation?
>>
>> Hello Josh,
>>
>> Thanks for taking the time to listen to the audio. Were you at the BOF
>> Monday night? If not, you may want to take a look at my slides for our
>> JSF 2.3 BOF, which I have linked from a blog entry [1]. Ian Hlavats's
>> informative slides are linked from there. Your email gives me a good
>> opportunity to recap the administrative content from the BOF here on the
>> list.
>>
>> The most important goal for the BOF was to state that there are two
>> feature engines for JSF 2.3, each with different agendas and
>> capabilities (some of which overlap).
>>
>> * Oracle Driven Features
>>
>> These features will be characterized by having stability, performance,
>> and platform integration as their goal. Examples of this category of
>> feature include
>>
>> 1316-_at_InjectOnJSFArtifacts
>>
>> 1321-LeverageHTTP2ServerPush
>>
>> 1-MultiComponentValidation (with Bean Validation)
>>
>> * Community Driven Features
>>
>> Kito's "JSON Rendering" feature
>>
>> Ian's "Twitter Bootstrap support" feature
>>
>> Ian's "RenderKits that target AngularJS directives"
>>
>> Josh, you're right about the need to draw people in with new features.
>> While it's hard to argue that any of the individual features in the
>> "Oracle Driven" category are compelling, taken together, they
>> do have a very big impact in increasing the appeal of JSF for
>> developers. We've been getting comments about the need to take time to
>> tighten up the loose ends for many releases now. It's time to sit down
>> and take action on those comments.
>>
>> I would like Arjan to lead a discussion here to find the single highest
>> impact/least effort new feature in the "Community Driven"
>> category. Let's take these one at a time. For my money, I think Kito's
>> "JSON Rendering" one is a great one to start with.
>>
>> Even if we have no success with the Community Driven Features, we still
>> have 1321-LeverageHTTP2ServerPush as a fallback.
>>
>> Ed
>>
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