From: Werner Keil <werner.keil_at_gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 15:06:02 +0200

Antonio/all,

I don't see, why the "View" part should be restricted to JSP or Facelets or
in some cases even to Java. At least Scala or other JVM languages (see
Play! Framework)

Regarding JSTL (JSR 52) if you mean that or an improvement in particular, 2
other approaches for a Standard Tag Library (JSR 128, 267) were withdrawn
due to lack of support or common ground. So that might be a reason, the
survey and EE 8 scope doesn't feel a need for something in that area, either

Werner

On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Antonio Goncalves <
antonio.goncalves_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> A shame there is no standardization effort around templating and that we
> still have to handle both JSP and Facelets. But it's good to see that the
> MVC spec will add an SPI for some abstraction. It's also good to see that
> the MVC controller will work well with JAX-RS, but not only (other types of
> controller could also be helpfull).
>
> Count on my as a supporter of this spec
>
> Antonio
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Werner Keil <werner.keil_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Linda/all,
>>
>>
>> Thanks a lot for the information. I would like to be listed as supporter,
>> especially since I'm very involved in some of the "Model" JSRs like 354 or
>> 363 that likely cater to applications using this new JSR and others.
>>
>> One thing I was wondering about the scope, is it really just strictly for
>> Java EE or (similar to CDI 2.0, which one has to add is the 3rd major JSR
>> on that side now[?]) could it benefit other UI frameworks like JavaFX
>> (seems a natural fit) or maybe others including Swing, SWT,... too?
>>
>> Actually 2.2 doesn't exclude SE, and while the original CDI proposal said
>> "...for Java EE", the latest CDI version (this JSR likely shall work with
>> [?]) JSR 365 is called "Contexts and Dependency Injection for Java(TM)
>> 2.0" so couldn't the description simply say "..., a model-view-controller
>> specification for Java(TM)"[?]
>>
>> Thanks and Regards,
>> Werner
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 5:05 PM, Linda DeMichiel <
>> linda.demichiel_at_oracle.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The proposal for the new JSR for MVC that Oracle plans to
>>> submit to the JCP is attached.
>>>
>>> Please let us know if your company would like to be listed
>>> as a supporter of this JSR. If you are an individual member
>>> of this expert group, please let us know if you would like
>>> to be listed as an individual supporting the JSR.
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>>
>>> -Linda
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject: MVC 1.0 JSR
>>> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 10:51:08 -0400
>>> From: Santiago Pericas-Geertsen <Santiago.PericasGeertsen_at_oracle.com>
>>> To: linda DeMichiel <linda.demichiel_at_oracle.com>
>>>
>>> Hello Linda,
>>>
>>> Please find the new MVC 1.0 JSR Proposal attached. The intent to
>>> define an MVC API for Java EE has been around for a few years, mostly in
>>> connection to JAX-RS. This JSR has broaden the scope in order to
>>> potentially support different types of controllers.
>>>
>>> Given that this is a new JSR, I'd appreciate if you can distribute the
>>> proposal among the Java EE Platform Experts asking if anyone wants to be
>>> listed as a supporter.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the help.
>>>
>>> -- Santiago
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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