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[javaee-spec users] Re: [jsr342-experts] Wish-List for EE 8

From: Antonio Goncalves <antonio.goncalves_at_gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 16:53:58 +0200

I'm following Arjan ;o)

http://antoniogoncalves.org/2013/07/18/java-ee-8-whislist/

Antonio

On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:54 AM, arjan tijms <arjan.tijms_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 8:52 PM, Peter Pilgrim <peter.pilgrim_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> As for the EJB vs CDI container, I think this is one for the
>> implementors. Can EJBs be built entirely from CDI APIs ?
>
>
> One of those implementors, David Blevins, wrote an extremely interesting
> article about this exact topic a while back:
> http://blog.dblevins.com/2012/11/cdi-when-to-break-out-ejbs.html
>
> Specifically regarding how EJB and CDI beans are implemented he wrote:
>
> *"So in a fundamental level, anything you can do with an "EJB" bean you
> should be able to do with a "CDI" bean. Under the covers it's awfully hard
> to tell them apart. All the plumbing is the same with the exception of how
> instances are resolved."*
> *
> *
> I'm not an EJB or CDI implementor, but judging from that statement I would
> carefully guess the answer to "Can EJBs be built entirely from CDI APIs"
> might indeed be yes.
>
>
>> I would be interested in Java EE 8 discussion at JavaOne. On the other
>> hand, as somebody who sees Java EE 6 issues, WebSphere 7 today, JAX-RPC
>> incompatible development libraries with Xerces, and other stuff. We still
>> have a long way to go in industry. Getting to people to look at Java EE 7
>> is still path to be conquered.
>>
>
> Certainly, but I think it are just several tracks that should happen in
> parallel.
>
> Vendors are still busy getting their Java EE 6 implementations to be rock
> solid (e.g. JBoss EAP 6.1, WebSphere & Liberty 8.5.5 and WebLogic 12.1.2
> are all rather recent Java EE 6 releases), while at the same time early
> Java EE 7 implementations are arriving that probably for some time to come
> will mainly be used by a small group of enthusiasts, and parallel to that
> initial planning for Java EE 8 can be done.
>
> Kind regards,
> Arjan Tijms
>
>>
>


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