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[javaee-spec users] [jsr342-experts] Re: Project Jigsaw earliest 2015 <= What about modularization in Java EE?

From: Jeff Genender <jgenender_at_savoirtech.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:31:27 -0500

Yes... inquiring minds want to know. I read that and my heart dropped...

Jeff

On Jul 17, 2012, at 1:45 PM, Markus Eisele wrote:

> Hi all,
> Hi Linda/Bill,
>
> seems as if the big news today also has some influence on Java EE 7/8.
> http://mreinhold.org/blog/late-for-the-train
>
> With the current plan we can't work on any further modularization
> based on Jigsaw before 2015.
>
> I would love to have a brief idea about what this mean to the plans
> for EE in general.
> Remembering some discussions about logging and modularization efforts
> planed to address with the JDK base in place.
> I still believe that the PaaS focus of EE 7 also lacks a lot of
> thoughts around this topic and I am wondering how everybody
> else sees this.
>
> Thanks for some clarifications,
> - Markus
>
>
>
> On 17 July 2012 08:50, Markus Eisele <myfear_at_web.de> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I don't know if we finally reached an agreement on the "how" here but
>> I would love to open this up again a little more.
>> With respect to a blog post by Craig Ringer this morning and also
>> Antonio's thoughts from mid 2011.
>>
>> http://blog.ringerc.id.au/2012/07/java-ee-7-needs-improvements-in-app.html
>> http://antoniogoncalves.org/2011/06/10/debate-and-what-about-configuration-in-java-ee-7/
>>
>> The configuration topic pops up more frequently and with the SSL
>> configuration we just hit the same topic ourselves.
>>
>> Is there any chance to pull the Java EE configuration into the EE 7 scope?
>>
>> What's your opinion on "deployment overlays" as outlined by the JBoss
>> AS7 team in this pull request:
>> https://github.com/jbossas/jboss-as/pull/2663 ?
>>
>> I would actually love to see both aspects:
>> - A general configuration approach as outlined by Craig (Preferences
>> API constrained for Java EE applications) and a
>> - standardized deployment overlay mechanism
>>
>> in EE 7.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> - M