[jsr342-experts] Re: Wish-List for EE 8

From: Werner Keil <werner.keil_at_gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:56:52 +0200

One more thing, Markus,

On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Markus Eisele <myfear_at_web.de> wrote:

>> You may have given up on Logging, did you? Otherwise this while not on
>> Aajan's wish-list could be worth mentioning, unless it is widely
>> understood, non-JCP de-facto standards like SLF4J or Log4J have won, and
>> it's not worth bothering for Java or Java EE?
> This is my biggest loss this year. Bill's call on that topic, the missing
> jigsaw implementation ... Some loging JEPs which don't care a bit about the
> developer perspective. Java Platforms lost the battle here. I consider this
> the biggest mistake and I wish there would be a good way for crowd sourcing
> JSRs and JEPs easier. In the meantime I also would consider simply taking
> log4j et al .. Just to improve the situation. The whole topic will come up
> with clouds again. And I expect to see a decent ignorance or JUL
> workaround. And yes: I'm disappointed. Mainly about the fact that I do have
> a day-job and can't take this into my own hands.

If you say "missing jigsaw implementation" does that mean, we probably
won't see any progress on logging till *Java EE 9* ?![?]


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