I suppose we could consider marking it "proposed optional" for EE 7,
with the understanding that if there's not an effective replacement
in the EE 8 timeframe we won't move it to "optional" for EE 8.
Werner Keil wrote on 11/07/11 12:41:
> If that means, yu prefer it to be optional from EE8 on, that sounds easier,
> especially based on (then expected) modularity.
>
> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 7:59 PM, Bill Shannon <bill.shannon_at_oracle.com
> <mailto:bill.shannon_at_oracle.com>> wrote:
>
> Jason T. Greene wrote on 10/10/11 7:25 AM:
>
> We skipped pruning JSR-77 last time around because a number of us
> thought it was
> better to update it to be more current. I think it's become clear that
> the spec
> is not only not going to be updated, but that its relevance is fading
> with the
> cloud direction the industry is moving in.
>
>
> I agree, we're not expecting significant updates to JSR-77, and we need a
> different management API in the long term. I'd be much happier if we had
> a replacement in place when we make JSR-77 optional.
>
>
> Can we prune it this time around (make it optional to vendors)? Also,
> why does
> the pruning process require that we wait for the next EE iteration to
> finalize
> something being made optional? Let's assume that in this example we made
> JSR-77
> optional in EE7, then after 7 is released we decided it was a mistake,
> we can
> just bring it back as required in EE8.
>
>
> We adopted the process formalized by the Java SE platform expert group, rather
> than inventing our own different process. It's good that there's consistency
> across the Java platform for how these things are handled.
>
> The reason it takes two releases is to give developers and the community a
> chance to react and to provide feedback. This is fairly standard practice
> across the industry.
>
>
>
>
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