[jsr342-experts] Re: Pruning JSR-77

From: Werner Keil <werner.keil_at_gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 21:41:09 +0100

If that means, yu prefer it to be optional from EE8 on, that sounds easier,
especially based on (then expected) modularity.

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 7:59 PM, Bill Shannon <bill.shannon_at_oracle.com>wrote:

> Jason T. Greene wrote on 10/10/11 7:25 AM:
> We skipped pruning JSR-77 last time around because a number of us thought
>> it was
>> better to update it to be more current. I think it's become clear that
>> the spec
>> is not only not going to be updated, but that its relevance is fading
>> with the
>> cloud direction the industry is moving in.
> I agree, we're not expecting significant updates to JSR-77, and we need a
> different management API in the long term. I'd be much happier if we had
> a replacement in place when we make JSR-77 optional.
> Can we prune it this time around (make it optional to vendors)? Also, why
>> does
>> the pruning process require that we wait for the next EE iteration to
>> finalize
>> something being made optional? Let's assume that in this example we made
>> JSR-77
>> optional in EE7, then after 7 is released we decided it was a mistake, we
>> can
>> just bring it back as required in EE8.
> We adopted the process formalized by the Java SE platform expert group,
> rather
> than inventing our own different process. It's good that there's
> consistency
> across the Java platform for how these things are handled.
> The reason it takes two releases is to give developers and the community a
> chance to react and to provide feedback. This is fairly standard practice
> across the industry.

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