Antonio,
Sorry for the late reply -- I have been out of town this week and in
meetings. I'll contribute details as soon as I can...
Your initial thoughts look about right. In our case, we allow the usage
of EJB meta-data outside of EJB in CDI managed beans, also revamp the
web.xml, application.xml, etc to be more compact/type-safe/flexible and
allow for fragments/meta-data mixing for all XML. In short, we see it is
an overhaul/modernization for Java EE XML configuration.
The big problem in making our solution completely portable is the lack
of a Servlet, EJB, etc, meta-data SPI (as Pete alluded to as an issue).
It's also the case that Seam Config solves 80%-90% of the problems...
Cheers,
Reza
On 6/10/2011 8:17 AM, Antonio Goncalves wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm not a configuration expert but, as a developer and deployer I feel
> something more is needed. I started to put some ideas into this email
> and then I switched to my blog. So here are my humble thoughts on the
> topic :
>
> http://agoncal.wordpress.com/2011/06/10/debate-and-what-about-configuration-in-java-ee-7/
>
> Reza and al, we can use this as a starting point to exchange an what
> configuration could look like
>
> Antonio
>
> On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 02:01, Reza Rahman <reza_rahman_at_lycos.com
> <mailto:reza_rahman_at_lycos.com>> wrote:
>
> Antonio,
>
> FYI, we do have some of these details hashed out internally. If it
> saves you time, I am happy to share those details.
>
> As I said, this has been on our radar, I'm just not entirely sure
> about priorities for Java EE 7 vs Java EE 8, etc.
>
> Cheers,
> Reza
>
>
>
> On 6/6/2011 6:01 PM, Linda DeMichiel wrote:
>
> Antonio,
>
> Sounds interesting, tell us more....
>
> thanks,
>
> -Linda
>
>
> On 6/2/2011 10:47 AM, Antonio Goncalves wrote:
>
> I would like to share some thoughts with you.
>
> I've used in the past Spring Config and latelly I've
> attended a conference that talked about Seam Config.
> Clearly I can
> see the benefit of having easy configuration on the entire
> platform. At the moment we have ejb-jar.xml and environment
> entries to configure our EJBs. We can also use the web.xml
> to pass some parameters to our servlets and bits and pieces
> in the application.xml file.
>
> Why not having a seperate spec that takes inspiration from
> Seam Config, Spring Config and so on to be able to configure
> the entire platform (a CDI bean as well as an EJB...).
> Configuration will also be used for Paas purposes of course.
>
> Configuration is an important topic and developers never
> know where to put it : property files, XML, database,
> JNDI. Why
> not having a spec that specifies how configuration should
> work (I really like the Seam Config approach) and each spec
> could then use it to specify how to configure a specific
> component, as well as batch processing or Paas/Saas
> configuration...
>
> Again, my 2 cents
>
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