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[javaee-security-spec users] [jsr375-experts] Re: Re: Migration from java.net

From: Werner Keil <werner.keil_at_gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 10:05:57 +0200

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Werner


On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 8:33 AM, Ivar Grimstad <ivar.grimstad_at_gmail.com>
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> On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 7:37 AM Rudy De Busscher <rdebusscher_at_gmail.com>
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>> Hi Will,
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>> During my working hours, it is not possible for me to join any meeting
>> online at the client site. But the evenings (20.00h GMT+2 onwards, which I
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>> Regards
>> Rudy
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>> On 11 October 2016 at 22:22, arjan tijms <arjan.tijms_at_gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Hi Will,
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>> Glad to have you here, even though you basically were here already ;)
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>> As for the EDR, from the top op my head it's a month from now and
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>> Werner likely knows this much better.
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>> As for the meeting, what would the medium be? Hangouts chat, slack, or
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>> Kind regards,
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>> I do plan to submit an EDR 1 ASAP. At the moment, though, I'm still
>> getting up to speed on both the content of the JSR and the mechanics
>> of running a JSR, particularly in light of the changes occasioned by
>> the decommissioning of java.net. Question -- does anyone know
>> off-hand what the deadline is for EDR vs. Renewal Ballot? If not, I
>> can find/figure it out on my end, but it wasn't obvious to me
>> looking at the JSR's JCP page, and I haven't yet read the full JCP
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>> Once I've digested the existing material, I'd like to meet with the
>> EG to discuss a plan for moving forward, either late this week or
>> early next week. I know we're scattered across a number of time
>> zones -- is there a time/day that's best for most members? If
>> there's a clear consensus I'll go with that; otherwise I'll put
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>> Lastly, regarding Werner's suggesting that we present at DevoXX US,
>> I'm going to submit a proposal today to present the JSR's work,
>> which I assume will be nearing completion by that time. If anyone
>> has any suggestions as to that content -- or if it conflicts with
>> Ivar's planned presentation -- please let me know ASAP. I want to
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>> Thanks for the update
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>> JSR 375, although if more
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>> Dear All,
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>> java.net to
>> GitHub: https://visualvm.github.io/
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>> A project
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>> JIRA is used
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>> Waffle (see
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>> other archives
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>> Friday, the
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>> updated on
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>> --
>> Will Hopkins | Platform Security Architect | +1.781.442.0310
>> Oracle Cloud Application Foundation
>> 35 Network Drive, Burlington, MA 01803
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