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[javaee-security-spec users] [jsr375-experts] Re: Re: Re: Migration from java.net

From: Werner Keil <werner.keil_at_gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2016 22:21:52 +0200

Hi Will/all,

Thanks for the reply. Final in March sounds a bit challenging even with the
overall timeline, but if we all work together "feature complete" in Q1
would certainly be awesome.
For the EDR1 Rudy has an opportunity to present it at Java2Days (about a
month from now) and speaking on other EE related subjects, I may join him
if we're scheduled on the same day.

JavaLand also has his talk and I proposed for Codemotion Rome. Codemotion
Amsterdam in May still has a CFP. Not sure, if Will or others would like to
join in on that or it's within reach from the US? Either JavaLand or
Codemotion Amsterdam could offer a chance to meet Arjan in person and thank
him for all he contributed to this JSR.

Kind Regards,
Werner


On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 8:38 PM, Will Hopkins <will.hopkins_at_oracle.com>
wrote:

> Thanks, Ivar.
>
>
> On 10/11/2016 02:08 PM, Ivar Grimstad wrote:
>
> Hi Will,
>
> I haven't submitted any talk on JSR 375 to DevoxxUS, but if you do feel
> free to add me as co-speaker if you like. I have submitted a couple of
> talks on other topics.
>
> Later this week I will be giving a talk on Java EE Security at the JavaDay
> conference in Kiev. That talk will be focusing around the main topics of
> KK's talk at JavaOne as well as showing demos of the tests that Arjan has
> made for Soteria on GitHub.
>
> BTW, there is also a CFP to Devnexus that ends November 1st,
> http://devnexus.com/s/cfp
>
> Ivar
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 8:01 PM Will Hopkins <will.hopkins_at_oracle.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Firstly, I'd like to just say that I'm very happy to be taking on the
>> spec lead role for JSR-375, and looking forward to working with you all to
>> bring it to fruition.
>>
>> I do plan to submit an EDR 1 ASAP. At the moment, though, I'm still
>> getting up to speed on both the content of the JSR and the mechanics of
>> running a JSR, particularly in light of the changes occasioned by the
>> decommissioning of java.net. Question -- does anyone know off-hand what
>> the deadline is for EDR vs. Renewal Ballot? If not, I can find/figure it
>> out on my end, but it wasn't obvious to me looking at the JSR's JCP page,
>> and I haven't yet read the full JCP 2.10 process doc.
>>
>> Once I've digested the existing material, I'd like to meet with the EG to
>> discuss a plan for moving forward, either late this week or early next
>> week. I know we're scattered across a number of time zones -- is there a
>> time/day that's best for most members? If there's a clear consensus I'll
>> go with that; otherwise I'll put something up on SurveyMonkey and we can
>> vote.
>>
>> Lastly, regarding Werner's suggesting that we present at DevoXX US, I'm
>> going to submit a proposal today to present the JSR's work, which I assume
>> will be nearing completion by that time. If anyone has any suggestions as
>> to that content -- or if it conflicts with Ivar's planned presentation --
>> please let me know ASAP. I want to get something in by today's deadline.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Will
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/11/2016 08:39 AM, Werner Keil wrote:
>>
>> Btw. not sure if it would be a great effort or e.g. the Jersey team could
>> help us (and Will or Alex), Jersey also has most of its development on
>> GitHub now, but https://github.com/jersey/jersey/ suggests, the mirror
>> works both ways.
>>
>> Something like that would make it easier for 375, too;-)
>>
>> Regards,
>> Werner
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 2:20 PM, arjan tijms <arjan.tijms_at_gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Werner Keil <werner.keil_at_gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Aside from a possible replacement host, what can the EG do to help EDR 1
>> of JSR 375 before a Renewal Ballot would be due?
>>
>>
>> I guess that writing the spec document would be an important thing to do.
>> I can surely do that, but then would be great if the new spec lead could
>> then indeed submit it (perhaps after making some edits if needed).
>>
>>
>>
>> The RI Soteria looks in pretty good shape IMO.
>> Ideally the "embedded" API folder in Soteria should be moved or at least
>> copied into the "spec-api" repository, whether on java.net (mirrored to
>> Github) or directly to GitHub is a minor detail.
>>
>>
>> Indeed, something that should still be done regardless.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Arjan Tijms
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> A few JSRs (like 330, 310 or JSON-P currently in JSR 374) never published
>> a plain text spec in a separate document, anything they documented is in
>> JavaDoc so far. It may not be suitable for JSR 375, but the spec document
>> could be short or left out of an EDR1.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Werner
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 7:57 PM, arjan tijms <arjan.tijms_at_gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the update Bill!
>>
>> If there's anything I (or any of the EG) can do to help let me/us know.
>>
>> Migrating the JIRA issues manually should be doable for JSR 375, although
>> if more projects are to be moved that way, specially one that have a very
>> old JIRA with literally thousands of issues (like Mojarra), looking at
>> something automated wouldn't hurt really.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Arjan Tijms
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 7:21 PM, Bill Shannon <bill.shannon_at_oracle.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> This subject is under very active discussion at Oracle, but we have
>> nothing to announce at this time, nor any schedule to share.
>>
>> Werner Keil wrote on 10/10/16 4:01 AM:
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> JSR 380 Spec Lead Gunnar Morling just mentioned VisualVM had migrated
>> from java.net to GitHub: https://visualvm.github.io/
>>
>> A project officially run and hosted by Oracle. Is it safe to assume,
>> others will follow, or do other migration plans exist especially for Java
>> EE (Glassfish) related projects and JSRs?
>>
>> JSR 375 is actually in a rather lucky position since it's relatively new
>> and has not so much history on java.net as other JSRs.
>>
>> JIRA is used by JSR 375, but 36 tickets as of now seem like they could be
>> migrated to e.g. GitHub issue tracker without a massive effort.
>>
>> Waffle (see https://waffle.io/unitsofmeasurement/unit-ri for JSR 363 RI,
>> it only recently moved from JIRA, so there are not so many tickets, as the
>> JSR is final, we may stick to the tarball or other archives for historic
>> tickets) allows to put an "agile" layer and it's probably not the only
>> solution of that kind for the GitHub tracker.
>>
>> Btw. as of Friday, the Spec Lead change was updated on jcp.org :-)
>>
>> WDYT?
>>
>> Werner
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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