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[javaee-security-spec users] [jsr375-experts] Re: Social Media presence for Soteria

From: Werner Keil <werner.keil_at_gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2016 12:11:43 +0100

Yes, according to GitHub only Alex and David are owners, so either of them
could add such repo;-)

Kind Regards,
Werner

On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 12:01 PM, arjan tijms <arjan.tijms_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 11:48 AM, Werner Keil <werner.keil_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> P.s.: IMHO the "edr1" should not be part of the artifactId, it's clearly
>> a part of the version number.
>>
>
> I guess it is, but shouldn't soteria then not become it's own top level
> repo? E.g. https://github.com/javaee-security-spec/soteria
>
> One of the reasons I went with edr1 in the artifact name for now (I knows
> it's not ideal and should be changed) is that the version as set in Maven
> would best be aligned with the git tag, but if you do that know the entire
> https://github.com/javaee-security-spec/javaee-security-proposals repo
> would get that tag. The authentication/authorization etc folders are
> independent of that.
>
> Kind regards,
> Arjan Tijms
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> So maybe we could have 2 Maven modules under "soteria-proposal" or
>> similar and simply call them "javax.security-api:security-api" (in the
>> API project the artifactId also contains the "javax" part, not sure, if
>> other EE JSRs do that also on MavenCentral?) as well as "
>> net.java.jsr375:soteria" for now.
>>
>> Something like "EDR1" "B01" or similar should only be in the version
>> number.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Werner
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 11:38 AM, Werner Keil <werner.keil_at_gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> At least Reza is very eager blogging all the time, maybe he could help
>>> us with some of the things like updating RI list, etc.?;-)
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Werner
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Werner Keil <werner.keil_at_gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sounds great, thanks.
>>>>
>>>> If anybody has enough rights in JIRA we could schedule these
>>>> accordingly and define at least "versions" for each of these EDR and other
>>>> steps.
>>>>
>>>> I noticed, the larger Glassfish community has also not been updated for
>>>> 3 years now (guess Oracle is not so interested in Glassfish now after all?
>>>> ;-|)
>>>> https://glassfish.java.net/rel-projects.html
>>>>
>>>> MVC and JSR 375 RIs should be listed there and if there is a CI server
>>>> instance for Glassfish or related projects, we should try to run those on a
>>>> CI build, too.
>>>>
>>>> Known public CI servers like Travis or Circle-CI would also work if we
>>>> had to do this on our own.
>>>>
>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>> Werner
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 12:43 AM, arjan tijms <arjan.tijms_at_gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 8:28 PM, Werner Keil <werner.keil_at_gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ideally we should keep API/Spec (it's simply Asciidoc like JSR 354)
>>>>>> and RI separate.
>>>>>> Snapshot repos are fine, we used JFrog OSS with JSRs 354 or 363 but
>>>>>> Sonatype is just as good (possibly easier to get it to MavenCentral then)
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Indeed, we went specifically for that with Sonatype for OmniFaces.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> From a process point we have up to 1 year from the Renewal Ballot,
>>>>>> but of course it's always better to produce something earlier. Could always
>>>>>> do EDR2 or more similar to MVC and others.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, I think it's best we do something like that.
>>>>>
>>>>> EDR1 is then roughly;
>>>>>
>>>>> * Authentication Mechanism base API
>>>>> * Several implementations of authentication mechanisms
>>>>> * Two mechanism interceptors; auto session and remember me
>>>>> * Identity store base API
>>>>> * Several implementations of identity stores
>>>>> * Standard Principal for the caller (used by JSR 375 at least,
>>>>> standardising this for the entire platform will be bigger task)
>>>>>
>>>>> For EDR2 to consider:
>>>>>
>>>>> * Multi authentication mechanism proposal from Darran
>>>>> * Multi identity store proposal from Rudy
>>>>> * Security context
>>>>> * Security interceptor proposal from Reza et all
>>>>>
>>>>> For EDR3 to consider:
>>>>> * Mandating containers doing 1:1 role mapping (we can't really
>>>>> implement this using public APIs, but RI could do it using GlassFish
>>>>> specific code)
>>>>> * web.xml integration/alignment
>>>>>
>>>>> There's (much) more on the TODO list like events, password aliasing
>>>>> and more, but the above may be a guideline on how to proceed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>> Arjan Tijms
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>>> Werner
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 5:47 PM, arjan tijms <arjan.tijms_at_gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Okay, so that remains an open question.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Meanwhile I've done a quick snapshot upload here using our
>>>>>>> omnnifaces groupId:
>>>>>>> https://oss.sonatype.org/content/repositories/snapshots/org/omnifaces/soteria-edr1/1.0-SNAPSHOT/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I made some choices with regard to naming and organisation here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Both API and impl. are in the same Maven module, just as two
>>>>>>> different packages. MVC has the API as a separate artefact in a separate
>>>>>>> repo, with the implementation depending on that. JSF however has api and
>>>>>>> impl as two folders in one larger project. Once the API is a little bit
>>>>>>> more stable and we can more easily upload both artefacts under their own
>>>>>>> groupIds, we should do the separation I guess.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I also named the artefact "soteria-edr1" for now. It could have been
>>>>>>> just soteria with "edr1" as the version number. For now I thought it was
>>>>>>> easier and clearer to have a separate edr1 folder, and then later have an
>>>>>>> edr2 etc, but we can change this of course. I just had to pick something
>>>>>>> for now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll test a little with the snapshot and can do a Maven central
>>>>>>> upload using the omnifaces groupId for the short term. This would make it
>>>>>>> easier for people to at least try out the code in their own test projects.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>> Arjan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 5:17 PM, Werner Keil <werner.keil_at_gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not sure, who in the EG can do that, at least someone had to
>>>>>>>> request upload privileges to MavenCentral for a groupId like
>>>>>>>> org.glassfish.soteria and of course for javax.security.* too, otherwise it
>>>>>>>> won't build ;-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Werner
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 12:49 AM, arjan tijms <
>>>>>>>> arjan.tijms_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 6:31 PM, Werner Keil <
>>>>>>>>> werner.keil_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So along the lines of MVC it should be
>>>>>>>>>> package org.glassfish.soteria;
>>>>>>>>>> then ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I just did the initial commit for the work in progress EDR1:
>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/javaee-security-spec/javaee-security-proposals/commit/e482ba6580072ad82413a80c40e7d3112b83119a
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The implementation package is org.glassfish.soteria ;)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Please in the proposals repo try to use the license header
>>>>>>>>>> plugin.
>>>>>>>>>> Looking at e.g. JAX-RS, the header spans across multiple years
>>>>>>>>>> for some JSRs (probably will be for MVC if they do something again)
>>>>>>>>>> Copyright (c) 2010-2015 Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights
>>>>>>>>>> reserved.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I had already copied the header manually to the API files, but
>>>>>>>>> I'll try the license plug-in header next.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For promotion it would be cool if we can publish the work in
>>>>>>>>> progress EDR1 jar to Maven central so people can more easily try it out.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>>>> Arjan Tijms
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Right now the license plugin as of last year only uses the
>>>>>>>>>> inception year (from the POM) but "currentYear" is also available. If you
>>>>>>>>>> want I can run the license reformatting at any time when things are changed.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Werner
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 6:18 PM, arjan tijms <
>>>>>>>>>> arjan.tijms_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Great :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'll do the package renaming tonight or tomorrow at the latest
>>>>>>>>>>> and commit the whole to the proposals repo.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> Arjan Tijms
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 9:08 AM, Rudy De Busscher <
>>>>>>>>>>> rdebusscher_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> All,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I created the Twitter account @Soteria_RI to promote the RI and
>>>>>>>>>>>> evangelise Java EE Security in general.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> best regards
>>>>>>>>>>>> Rudy
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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