Hi,
Good to see that there will be a talk about the Security JSR. Curious
though what'll be in it ;)
Kind regards,
Arjan Tijms
On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 6:18 PM, Werner Keil <werner.keil_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> Ed,
>
> Thanks for pointing to that. It has the word "JSR" in it. I just checked
> and found to my great delight, another EE 8 talk of mine ( What's New in
> JSON-P 1.1? [CON6264] ) must have been approved at the last second;-)
>
> It'll be on Wednesday.
>
> Maybe depending on how everybody's time we could find a good time for a
> JSR 375 F2F and ask Heather for a room on Tuesday around the EE Security
> talk: CON7978?
>
> Regards,
> Werner
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 6:02 PM, Ed Bratt <ed.bratt_at_oracle.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Ivar and Werner and the Security EG
>>
>> Just in case it hasn't made the catalog yet, I wanted to let you know
>> that we will be giving a conference session on the Security JSR "Security
>> for Java EE 8 and the Cloud" (CON7978) presented by KK Sriramadhesikan.
>> This will be Tuesday at 5:30 in the Mission conference room (of course,
>> check the conference schedule in case the schedule changes).
>>
>> I will check with Heather about setting up a face to face. I'll respond
>> when I know if this is feasible.
>>
>> Also, just in case it isn't clear: anyone here, is also welcome to also
>> offer feedback via the public Java EE Platform EG e-mail list. You are
>> welcome to join that list if you aren't already a member, via (this link
>> <sympa_at_javaee-spec.java.net?subject=subscribe%20users> just hit send
>> after the mail client dialog opens), or if you just wish to comment, send
>> e-mail to users_at_javaee-spec.java.net.
>>
>> We appreciate the support you have given this EG and look forward to the
>> collaborations we have before us.
>>
>> -- Ed Bratt,
>>
>> (Senior Development Manager, Oracle)
>>
>> On 8/24/2016 2:20 AM, Werner Keil wrote:
>>
>> I'm just about to ask Heather, all EG members who are known to be there
>> are CC so we can find a date that's best for everyone (e.g. nobody having a
>> talk ;-D)
>>
>> Werner
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 11:16 AM, Ivar Grimstad <ivar.grimstad_at_gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> +1 to a F2F meeting!
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 11:14 AM Werner Keil <werner.keil_at_gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Guys,
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure, if Jeff is likely Oracle's new Spec Lead for JSR 375 or
>>>> just a "messenger", but the message for this JSR and its goals towards Java
>>>> EE 8 at least include "O-Auth and OpenID Connect support" by the time the
>>>> EE 8 release train is scheduled.
>>>>
>>>> David already spoke about possible adjustments to the exact scope or
>>>> requirements of JSRs like 375 when he mentioned it at JavaLand, but he also
>>>> called it "Cloud relevant" and so did other sources at Oracle. And it is
>>>> quite unlikely the aims like
>>>>
>>>> "O-Auth and OpenID Connect" can be reached elsewhere.
>>>> Java EE 8 is supposed to run on Java SE 8, so a new "JEP" or SE 9 module is out of the question.
>>>> JSR 351 (Identity Management where AFAIR OpenID was also experimented with) was withdrawn by Spec Lead Oracle,
>>>> which leaves JSR 375 as its natural heir and successor.
>>>> spoke
>>>>
>>>> Many of us including Ivar, Adam, David or myself are speakers at JavaOne.
>>>> Red Hat, IBM and Oracle will obviously be there, too, regardless of the inviduals representing them in the EG.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Are those who come to JavaOne happy to do a F2F meeting offered by Heather to Spec Lead and Experts?
>>>>
>>>> Sorry that Arjan does not seem to be there, but I recall the conference rooms have both audio and Wifi, so ideally he and others who cannot attend in person could also join the meeting by phone, Skype or Hangout.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Werner
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 2:31 AM, Jeff Tancill <jeff.tancill_at_oracle.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> FYI
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>>>> Subject: [javaee-spec users] [jsr366-experts] update to Java EE 8 plan
>>>>> Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 17:05:23 -0700
>>>>> From: Bill Shannon <bill.shannon_at_oracle.com> <bill.shannon_at_oracle.com>
>>>>> Reply-To: jsr366-experts_at_javaee-spec.java.net
>>>>> To: jsr366-experts_at_javaee-spec.java.net
>>>>>
>>>>> As many of you have read in the press [1], Oracle is reevaluating the
>>>>> scope and plans for Java EE 8. Based on the changes we've seen in the
>>>>> industry in recent years, we believe we need to do more to Java EE to
>>>>> make it better suited for developing the next generation of cloud
>>>>> and microservices applications.
>>>>>
>>>>> The current generation of enterprise Java applications is already well
>>>>> supported by Java EE 7 in cloud services provided by Oracle and
>>>>> others. As Anil Gaur said in his recent presentation to the JCP EC [2]:
>>>>>
>>>>> We would like the future of Java EE to be viable to next generation
>>>>> of applications. These apps are composed and deployed differently
>>>>> in cloud and require flexibility, reliability and scale. The
>>>>> platform needs a new programming model that's geared towards
>>>>> reactive style programming for building large-scale distributed
>>>>> applications that are loosely coupled. In addition, we would like
>>>>> to see HTTP/2, Config, State management, Eventual Consistency,
>>>>> Multi-tenancy, O-Auth and OpenID Connect get included in the
>>>>> platform.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is critical that Java EE reflect the needs of the community. We are
>>>>> preparing another community survey, similar to the survey we did in
>>>>> 2014 [3], to assess whether the community shares our views about
>>>>> what's needed in Java EE. We expect this survey to be available in
>>>>> the next few weeks. We'll also be looking at the results of other
>>>>> surveys and community input, and will be continuing our discussions
>>>>> with Java EE licensees. At JavaOne we'll be presenting our proposals
>>>>> for updates to Java EE and gathering feedback from attendees.
>>>>>
>>>>> After considering the results of our survey and other feedback, we'll
>>>>> adjust the plans for Java EE 8, with a goal of delivering Java EE 8
>>>>> within a year. Much of the initially planned work is nearly complete
>>>>> or well on its way, but new work will need to be done more quickly than
>>>>> usual. Obviously all desired work will not be able to be done in Java
>>>>> EE 8 and some planned work may no longer be important.
>>>>>
>>>>> This short schedule for Java EE 8 will allow us to move quickly into
>>>>> planning for Java EE 9, which will be able to take advantage of the
>>>>> Java SE 9 Jigsaw module system, and will give us more time for some of
>>>>> the larger improvements to the Java EE programming model.
>>>>>
>>>>> Stay tuned for more information about our community survey, and join us
>>>>> at JavaOne to hear more about our proposals for Java EE.
>>>>>
>>>>> Your opinion is valuable to us and we look forward to collaborating with you.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [1]http://www.infoworld.com/article/3098007/java/oracle-to-reboot-java-ee-for-the-cloud.html
>>>>> [2]https://jcp.org/aboutJava/communityprocess/ec-public/materials/2016-08-09/August-2016-Public-Minutes.html
>>>>> [3] https://blogs.oracle.com/ldemichiel/
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