awww...now why do you need to bring reality into the discussion? =)
I'm actually thinking a little higher in the food chain. A news article
[0] on the open office transition identified Luke Kowalski [1], VP of
Oracle Corporate Architecture Group, as involved. I assume he was involved
more than just as a mouth piece, but even if that was the extent, he would
certainly could be a good resource to find the right people.
Like any business deal, though, it should be mutually beneficial and the
idea presented in an appropriate manner. Perhaps the GF Community can,
together, create a compelling recommendation to Oracle and present it in a
unified voice.
[0]
http://www.zdnet.com/article/oracle-gives-openoffice-to-apache/
[1]
https://www.linkedin.com/in/lukekowalski
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On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 9:37 AM, Markus Karg <karg_at_quipsy.de> wrote:
> I doubt that those two business units even know of each other’s existence.
> :-D
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> *Von:* Steven Siebert [mailto:smsiebe_at_gmail.com]
> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 31. März 2016 15:31
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> *An:* users_at_glassfish.java.net
> *Betreff:* [gf-users] Re: Glassfish Server Open Source Version
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>
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> Perhaps you could find an ear by discovering who at Oracle was involved
> with getting OpenOffice into the Apache foundation?
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>
> On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 9:20 AM, reza_rahman <reza_rahman_at_lycos.com>
> wrote:
>
> Like most projects in our industry, your best bet is outbound folks like
> evangelists, project managers and executives. Talking with engineers, sales
> people or middle managers is hardly ever productive outside of very mundane
> issues.
>
>
>
> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
>
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
>
> From: Markus Karg <karg_at_quipsy.de>
>
> Date: 3/31/16 9:09 AM (GMT-05:00)
>
> To: users_at_glassfish.java.net
>
> Subject: [gf-users] Re: Glassfish Server Open Source Version
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>
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> Reza,
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>
> thank you for speaking frankly.
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>
> I wonder whether there is any person at Oracle who is really willing to
> discuss a friendly migration of the GlassFish project management from their
> own (possibly no-more-existing team) to the Payara team?
>
>
>
> -Markus
>
>
>
> *Von:* reza_rahman [mailto:reza_rahman_at_lycos.com]
> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 31. März 2016 15:05
> *An:* users_at_glassfish.java.net
> *Betreff:* [gf-users] Re: Glassfish Server Open Source Version
>
>
>
> Personally I don't think there is much point to waiting to hear back from
> Oracle on just about anything other than their commercial products. And
> even then you'd be pushing your luck unless you are one of their multi
> million dollar customers...
>
>
>
> Just my two cents.
>
>
>
> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
>
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
>
> From: Markus Karg <karg_at_quipsy.de>
>
> Date: 3/31/16 7:37 AM (GMT-05:00)
>
> To: users_at_glassfish.java.net
>
> Subject: [gf-users] Re: Glassfish Server Open Source Version
>
>
>
> While I was roaming several JUGs about that idea, I was always a bit
> reluctant with such a public address – I wanted to get Oracle’s opinion
> first, but while a lot of Oracle people discussed the idea with me, no
> officials ever decided for or against it…
>
>
>
>
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> *Von:* reza_rahman [mailto:reza_rahman_at_lycos.com <reza_rahman_at_lycos.com>]
> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 31. März 2016 13:03
> *An:* users_at_glassfish.java.net
> *Betreff:* [gf-users] Re: Glassfish Server Open Source Version
>
>
>
> This too would be a great idea. Perhaps such issues are worth writing a
> blog entry about?
>
>
>
> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
>
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
>
> From: Markus Karg <karg_at_quipsy.de>
>
> Date: 3/31/16 6:08 AM (GMT-05:00)
>
> To: users_at_glassfish.java.net
>
> Subject: [gf-users] Re: Glassfish Server Open Source Version
>
>
>
> Reza,
>
>
>
> thank you for this insight.
>
>
>
> I wonder why Oracle not simply opens the further project management of
> GlassFish to the community, so we can simply build up our own
> organizational structures to keep this valueable open source project alive
> – possibly with Payara staff as managers?
>
>
>
> -Markus
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* reza_rahman [mailto:reza_rahman_at_lycos.com <reza_rahman_at_lycos.com>]
> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 31. März 2016 11:53
> *An:* users_at_glassfish.java.net
> *Betreff:* [gf-users] Re: Glassfish Server Open Source Version
>
>
>
> Officially speaking, yes GlassFish is the RI for Java EE. Practically
> speaking with how much of the EE 8 work now done by the community, it may
> soon become a good idea to work with Payara if actively engaged in spec
> development or evaluation.
>
>
>
> The Payara team has always made it clear their goal is to merge as much
> work back into GlassFish as possible. We are yet to see the same strong
> commitment from Oracle to supporting the community in moving GlassFish and
> Java EE 8 forward. We hope to see such a commitment and tangible effort to
> back up that commitment some time in the future.
>
>
>
> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
>
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
>
> From: Yannick Majoros <yannick.majoros_at_gmail.com>
>
> Date: 3/31/16 5:20 AM (GMT-05:00)
>
> To: users_at_glassfish.java.net
>
> Subject: [gf-users] Re: Glassfish Server Open Source Version
>
>
>
> Hey Reza,
>
>
>
> Will GF5 be the reference implementation of Java EE 8?
>
>
>
> It seemed that Payara contributed back to GF. Is it still the case?
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Yannick
>
>
>
> Le jeu. 31 mars 2016 à 11:01, reza_rahman <reza_rahman_at_lycos.com> a
> écrit :
>
> You really should look into Payara. I doubt anyone would responsibly
> advise you to use plain GlassFish for anything other than learning.
>
>
>
> Oracle officially stopped supporting GlassFish commercially a while back.
> Consequently GlassFish is hardly a maintened code base any more. I doubt
> that will change any time in the future.
>
>
>
> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
>
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
>
> From: "Veasey, Delores E" <delores.e.veasey_at_lmco.com>
>
> Date: 3/30/16 12:20 PM (GMT-05:00)
>
> To: users_at_glassfish.java.net
>
> Subject: [gf-users] Glassfish Server Open Source Version
>
>
>
> How old is Glassfish server version 3.1.2.2
>
> Is there a Glassfish version 3.2.2.12
>
> Is version 3.1.2.2 still supported, if not what is the most current version
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> Than you very much,
>
> Delores E. Vesey
>
> Lockheed Martin Houston
>
> Delores.e.veasey_at_lmco.com
>
> --
>
> Yannick Majoros
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>
>