Thanks for the feedback Martin, I appreciate it, and all your other assistance on this.
I'll have a look through those links today after I test Open Solaris and another couple of Linux distros. Hopefully I won't have to change anything other than the underlying operating system which would be an incredible win.
--- On Tue, 14/7/09, Martin Gainty <mgainty@hotmail.com> wrote:
> From: Martin Gainty <mgainty@hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: Dissapointed
> To: "Users GlassFish.dev.java.net" <users@glassfish.dev.java.net>
> Received: Tuesday, 14 July, 2009, 9:52 PM
>
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> mg>hopefully quick comments
>
> > Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 18:56:06 -0700
> > From: adamjenkinstmpredirect@yahoo.com.au
> > To: users@glassfish.dev.java.net
> > Subject: Re: Dissapointed
> >
> > WOOHOOOOOO! These bugs are linux only!!!!!!
> >
> > Dies, you're a legend, it didn't even occur to
> me to test Windows to see if it worked...I just assumed
> platform independence meant it would be the same...but I
> confirmed it works fine on windows.
> >
> > I have the day off tomorrow, so I might try another
> Linux distro and also try open solaris in a virtual machine
> and see if it's a *nix bug, or if it's just a Linux
> bug.
> >
> > I've stalled a JBoss migration pending
> investigation into moving to Unix or a different linux
> distro!
> >
> > Thanks so much for your assistance with this.
> >
> > --- On Mon, 13/7/09, Dies Koper
> <diesk@fast.au.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> >
> > > From: Dies Koper
> <diesk@fast.au.fujitsu.com>
> > > Subject: Re: Dissapointed
> > > To: users@glassfish.dev.java.net
> > > Received: Monday, 13 July, 2009, 2:20 PM
> > > Please do let us know if you can
> > > reproduce the issue on GFv2.1 + Windows
> > > and GFv2.1.1 (latest build) on Ubuntu.
> > >
> > > Adam Jenkins wrote:
> > > > Technically you could run an SSB in your web
> tier, but
> > > that causes
> > > > two problems
> > > >
> > > > 1) Seperation of concerns would be
> violated...from a
> > > design point of
> > > > view that's not great...I mean, if I was
> going to
> > > bleed between
> > > > layers like that I might as well drop EJBs
> all
> > > together and just pull
> > > > directly from the database into objects.
> mg>this definition from Hans Donner
> mg>DTO is to be used to transfer data (whole chunks of
> it), so only one
> object needs to mg>be transferred instead of multiple
> smaller ones.
>
> mg>VO are objects that only hold a readonly value. The
> example I've
> seen used in a book mg>(I though it was Beck) was A
> money(bag) object.
> It's created with a value. If money mg>is added, a
> new instance is
> returned instead of an updated one.
> mg>
http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=20973
>
> > > >
> > > > 2) You're not supposed to write to a
> file from an SSB
> > > (good 'ol
> > > > fashioned EJB specification constraints),
> since it's a
> > > distributed
> > > > system.
> mg>you're not supposed to write SSB but people do
> this all the time..take a look at tc mg>users list
> mg>the container is supposed to write a serialised
> representation of object on mg>ejbPassivate and read back
> serialised object when ejbActivate is called..entity and
> mg>stateless beans remain in pool
> mg>
http://www.jguru.com/faq/view.jsp?EID=1195
>
> > > >
> > > > The closest you could come (and still not
> violate the
> > > spec) is to
> > > > have your EJB call a web service which then
> generated
> mg>think twice about increasing network latency
> introduced from a SOA call
> mg>then again if your pathping call to SOA in next room
> is under 1 sec this may well be mg>effort
>
> > > the includes,
> > > > but that's just a complete cludge and
> pretty
> > > messy. Ultimately, this
> > > > isn't a problem with using a timer, even
> if I went to
> > > something like
> > > > Quartz I'd still have the same
> problem. This is
> > > a problem with
> > > > RMI/IIOP between a web/ejb tier.
> mg>notice how many sys-admins avoid the problem by not
> implementing iiop?
>
> mg> This same error
> > > happens from
> > > > ServletContextListeners
> mg>generally events make a local reference so theres no
> latency/timeout issues here
> mg>
http://java.sun.com/j2ee/1.4/docs/api/javax/servlet/ServletContextListener.html
>
> HttpSessionListeners
> mg>generally handled by acceptor threads for
> http-listener-1 in /config/domain.xml
> mg>--acceptorthreads
> mg>number of acceptor threads for the listen socket. The
> recommended value is the mg>number of processors in the
> machine.
> mg>
http://docs.sun.com/source/817-6092/hman1/create-http-listener.1.html
>
> mg>grand kudos on narrowing the conditions that cause
> the error!
> mg>martin gainty
>
> > > not related to
> > > > the timer at all
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- On Mon, 13/7/09, Dies Koper
> <diesk@fast.au.fujitsu.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> From: Dies Koper
> <diesk@fast.au.fujitsu.com>
> > > Subject: Re:
> > > >> Dissapointed To:
> users@glassfish.dev.java.net
> > > Received: Monday, 13
> > > >> July, 2009, 1:47 PM Hi Adam,
> > > >>
> > > >> Can't an EJB Timer running in your
> "web" tier do
> > > anything your
> > > >> java.util.TimerTask can, maybe better
> because it
> > > uses container
> > > >> managed call-backs?
> > > >>
> > > >> Regards, Dies
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Adam Jenkins wrote:
> > > >>> I can't use an EJB Timer for
> this particular
> > > problem
> > > >> as it involves
> > > >>> generating reports, that then get
> served from
> > > a jsp
> > > >> c:import. So it
> > > >>> generates a range of reports
> directly into the
> > > web
> > > >> directory. This
> > > >>> is done because the pages are too
> big to
> > > serve
> > > >> directly (large
> > > >>> reports)...since it's on the web
> tier not the
> > > ejb tier
> > > >> it has to be a
> > > >>> timer.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> --- On Mon, 13/7/09, Dies Koper
> <diesk@fast.au.fujitsu.com>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>>> From: Dies Koper
> <diesk@fast.au.fujitsu.com>
> > > >> Subject: Re:
> > > >>>> Dissapointed To:
> users@glassfish.dev.java.net
> > > >> Received: Monday, 13
> > > >>>> July, 2009, 10:53 AM Hi Adam,
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> I have two instances, under
> the
> > > management of
> > > >> one node
> > > >>>> agent...is
> > > >>>>> that what you mean by
> 'clusters', or
> > > have you
> > > >> set up
> > > >>>> something else
> > > >>>>> that I missed...this might
> be the
> > > problem.
> > > >>>> When I use GlassFish in cluster
> mode (i.e.
> > > with a
> > > >> node agent), I
> > > >>>> create a cluster with in it an
> instance
> > > ("asadmin
> > > >> create-cluster
> > > >>>> cl1" followed by
> "asadmin create-instance
> > > -cluster
> > > >> . I've never
> > > >>>> used "single"
> instances that are not
> > > assigned to a
> > > >> cluster (except
> > > >>>> for the DAS server of course).
> But I
> > > suppose that
> > > >> should not
> > > >>>> matter?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Also, I'm still wondering
> about your use
> > > of a
> > > >> java.util.Timer
> > > >>>> instead of an EJB Timer. If you
> can
> > > somehow
> > > >> rewrite your
> > > >>>> application to use an EJB Timer
> instead,
> > > you'd be
> > > >> using a pattern
> > > >>>> that more other users would be
> using, so
> > > less risk
> > > >> of running into
> > > >>>> new bugs. Can't you deploy a
> simple SLSB
> > > with your
> > > >> web application (so in the
> "web1" instance) with
> > > an EJB Timer
> > > >> callback method that
> > > >>>> polls the application in your
> > > "enterprise1"
> > > >> instance?
> > > >>>> Regards, Dies
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Adam Jenkins wrote:
> > > >>>>> Cheers Dies for looking
> into
> > > this. I'll
> > > >> try
> > > >>>> reducing the timer to
> > > >>>>> one minute and see what
> happens.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> A few things that may assist
> us in a
> > > >> differential
> > > >>>> diagnosis.
> > > >>>>> Linux vs Window - I notice
> you're on
> > > windows,
> > > >> I'm on
> > > >>>> ubuntu...I'm
> > > >>>>> going to try this on window
> tonight
> > > and see if
> > > >> the
> > > >>>> problem persists
> > > >>>>> JMS Remote vs Local -- I
> tried Remote
> > > today
> > > >> and still
> > > >>>> got the
> > > >>>>> problem, so that rules out
> that.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> I have two instances, under
> the
> > > management of
> > > >> one node
> > > >>>> agent...is
> > > >>>>> that what you mean by
> 'clusters', or
> > > have you
> > > >> set up
> > > >>>> something else
> > > >>>>> that I missed...this might
> be the
> > > problem.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> I still get the error with a
> timeout
> > > down to
> > > >> 60
> > > >>>> seconds...so I think
> > > >>>>> it may be one of the
> above...hopefully
> > > it's
> > > >> something
> > > >>>> as simple as
> > > >>>>> needing a new version, or
> windows v
> > > linux.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Thanks for the feedback,
> it's opened
> > > up new
> > > >> avenues
> > > >>>> for
> > > >>>>> investigation, hopefully I
> can stall
> > > for a few
> > > >> more
> > > >>>> days because I'd
> > > >>>>> really love to go into
> production with
> > > gf.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> --- On Sun, 12/7/09, Dies
> Koper <diesk@fast.au.fujitsu.com>
> > > >>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>> From: Dies Koper
> <diesk@fast.au.fujitsu.com>
> > > >>>> Subject: Re:
> > > >>>>>> Dissapointed To:
> users@glassfish.dev.java.net
> > > >>>> Received: Sunday, 12
> > > >>>>>> July, 2009, 4:35 PM Hi
> Adam,
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> I have deployed the
> application to
> > > the
> > > >> latest
> > > >>>> promoted build of GF
> > > >>>>>> V2.1.1, and I did not
> see any
> > > error
> > > >> messages.
> > > >>>>>> This is my environment:
> -
> > > >>
> glassfish-installer-v2.1.1-b22-windows.jar -
> > > >>>> JDK1.5 - JMS broker in
> > > >>>>>> REMOTE mode - used
> "localhost" for
> > > the
> > > >> host name
> > > >>>> in the corbaname,
> > > >>>>>> with the same port you
> used.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> I used two different
> clusters for
> > > the two
> > > >>>> instances. I commented
> > > >>>>>> out your injection of
> the
> > > >> jms/PrepareReports into
> > > >>>> a java.util.Queue
> > > >>>>>> to get rid of those
> unrelated
> > > error
> > > >> messages.
> > > >>>>>> I wonder whether our fix
> for issue
> > > 8350
> > > >> is
> > > >>>> related.
> > > >>>>
>
https://glassfish.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=8350
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>>> I hope this information
> helps you
> > > and
> > > >> others
> > > >>>> pinpoint what could be
> > > >>>>>> causing the problems
> you've seen.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> I also reduced your
> timer period
> > > to a 1
> > > >> minute
> > > >>>> interval, and see no
> > > >>>>>> IIOP timeouts even after
> 20 calls.
> > > I did
> > > >> see the
> > > >>>> following IIOP
> > > >>>>>> warning about a minute
> before the
> > > EJB
> > > >> invocations
> > > >>>> started:
> > > >>
> > >
> [#|2009-07-12T15:59:52.218+1000|WARNING|sun-appserver2.1|javax.enterprise.resource.corba.ee.S1AS-ORB.rpc.transport|_ThreadID=19;_ThreadName=p:
> > > >>
> > > >>>>>> thread-pool-1; w:
> > > >>
> > >
> 3;6000;7280;;_RequestID=8940ea7e-e092-4d6d-8611-bea52f07358c;|"IOP00410229:
> > > >>
> > > >>>>>> (COMM_FAILURE) Blocking
> read
> > > failed,
> > > >>>> expected to read additional
> > > >>>>>> bytes: max wait
> time =
> > > 6,000ms total
> > > >> time
> > > >>>> spent waiting = 7,280ms"
> > > >>
> > >
> org.omg.CORBA.COMM_FAILURE: vmcid:
> > > SUN minor code: 229
> > > >>>>>> completed: No at
> > > >>
> > >
> com.sun.corba.ee.impl.logging.ORBUtilSystemException.blockingReadTimeout(ORBUtilSystemException.java:3569)
> > > >>
> > > >>>>>> at
> > > >>
> > >
> com.sun.corba.ee.impl.logging.ORBUtilSystemException.blockingReadTimeout(ORBUtilSystemException.java:3593)
> > > >>
> > > >>>>>> at
> > > >>
> > >
> com.sun.corba.ee.impl.transport.SocketOrChannelConnectionImpl.blockingRead(SocketOrChannelConnectionImpl.java:1863)
> > > >>
> > > >>>>>> at
> > > >>
> > >
> com.sun.corba.ee.impl.transport.SocketOrChannelConnectionImpl.doOptimizedReadStrategy(SocketOrChannelConnectionImpl.java:1733)
> > > >>
> > > >>>>>> at
> > > >>
> > >
> com.sun.corba.ee.impl.transport.SocketOrChannelConnectionImpl.doWork(SocketOrChannelConnectionImpl.java:1263)
> > > >>
> > > >>>>>> at
> > > >>
> > >
> com.sun.corba.ee.impl.orbutil.threadpool.ThreadPoolImpl$WorkerThread.run(ThreadPoolImpl.java:555)
> > > >>
> > > >>>>>> |#]
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Regards, Dies
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Adam Jenkins wrote:
> > > >>>>>>> The issues are
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
>
https://glassfish.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=8589
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> and
> > > >>>>>>
>
https://glassfish.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=8590
> > > >>>>>>> The first one has a
> netbeans
> > > project
> > > >> attached
> > > >>>> that
> > > >>>>>> reproduces things.
> > > >>>>>>> Unfortunately
> I'm not able to
> > > point
> > > >> you at the
> > > >>>> source
> > > >>>>>> (glassfish
> > > >>>>>>> source) as I
> don't know.
> > > It's
> > > >> the
> > > >>>> weekend here
> > > >>>>>> at the moment, and I
> > > >>>>>>> don't have to
> start moving to
> > > JBoss
> > > >> until next
> > > >>>> week so
> > > >>>>>> I'm going to
> > > >>>>>>> have an attempt at
> checking
> > > out the
> > > >> glassfish
> > > >>>> source
> > > >>>>>> today and hoping
> > > >>>>>>> for a miracle :)
> > >
> > >
> > >
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