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Re: Dissapointed

From: Adam Jenkins <adamjenkinstmpredirect_at_yahoo.com.au>
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:10:36 -0700 (PDT)

Technically you could run an SSB in your web tier, but that causes two problems 1) Seperation of concerns would be violated...from a design point of view that's not great...I mean, if I was going to bleed between layers like that I might as well drop EJBs all together and just pull directly from the database into objects. 2) You're not supposed to write to a file from an SSB (good 'ol fashioned EJB specification constraints), since it's a distributed system. The closest you could come (and still not violate the spec) is to have your EJB call a web service which then generated the includes, but that's just a complete cludge and pretty messy. Ultimately, this isn't a problem with using a timer, even if I went to something like Quartz I'd still have the same problem. This is a problem with RMI/IIOP between a web/ejb tier. This same error happens from ServletContextListeners, HttpSessionListeners...it's not related to the timer at all --- On Mon, 13/7/09, Dies Koper <diesk@fast.au.fujitsu.com> wrote: > From: Dies Koper <diesk@fast.au.fujitsu.com> > Subject: Re: Dissapointed > To: users@glassfish.dev.java.net > Received: Monday, 13 July, 2009, 1:47 PM > Hi Adam, > > Can't an EJB Timer running in your "web" tier do anything > your java.util.TimerTask can, maybe better because it uses > container managed call-backs? > > Regards, > Dies > > > Adam Jenkins wrote: > > I can't use an EJB Timer for this particular problem > as it involves > > generating reports, that then get served from a jsp > c:import.  So it > > generates a range of reports directly into the web > directory.  This > > is done because the pages are too big to serve > directly (large > > reports)...since it's on the web tier not the ejb tier > it has to be a > > timer. > > > > > > --- On Mon, 13/7/09, Dies Koper <diesk@fast.au.fujitsu.com> > wrote: > > > >> From: Dies Koper <diesk@fast.au.fujitsu.com> > Subject: Re: > >> Dissapointed To: users@glassfish.dev.java.net > Received: Monday, 13 > >> July, 2009, 10:53 AM Hi Adam, > >> > >>> I have two instances, under the management of > one node > >> agent...is > >>> that what you mean by 'clusters', or have you > set up > >> something else > >>> that I missed...this might be the problem. > >> When I use GlassFish in cluster mode (i.e. with a > node agent), I > >> create a cluster with in it an instance ("asadmin > create-cluster > >> cl1" followed by "asadmin create-instance -cluster > . I've never > >> used "single" instances that are not assigned to a > cluster (except > >> for the DAS server of course). But I suppose that > should not > >> matter? > >> > >> Also, I'm still wondering about your use of a > java.util.Timer > >> instead of an EJB Timer. If you can somehow > rewrite your > >> application to use an EJB Timer instead, you'd be > using a pattern > >> that more other users would be using, so less risk > of running into > >> new bugs. Can't you deploy a simple SLSB with your > web application (so in the "web1" instance) with an EJB > Timer callback method that > >> polls the application in your "enterprise1" > instance? > >> > >> Regards, Dies > >> > >> > >> Adam Jenkins wrote: > >>> Cheers Dies for looking into this.  I'll > try > >> reducing the timer to > >>> one minute and see what happens. > >>> > >>> A few things that may assist us in a > differential > >> diagnosis. > >>> Linux vs Window - I notice you're on windows, > I'm on > >> ubuntu...I'm > >>> going to try this on window tonight and see if > the > >> problem persists > >>> JMS Remote vs Local -- I tried Remote today > and still > >> got the > >>> problem, so that rules out that. > >>> > >>> I have two instances, under the management of > one node > >> agent...is > >>> that what you mean by 'clusters', or have you > set up > >> something else > >>> that I missed...this might be the problem. > >>> > >>> I still get the error with a timeout down to > 60 > >> seconds...so I think > >>> it may be one of the above...hopefully it's > something > >> as simple as > >>> needing a new version, or windows v linux. > >>> > >>> Thanks for the feedback, it's opened up new > avenues > >> for > >>> investigation, hopefully I can stall for a few > more > >> days because I'd > >>> really love to go into production with gf. > >>> > >>> --- On Sun, 12/7/09, Dies Koper <diesk@fast.au.fujitsu.com> > >> wrote: > >>>> From: Dies Koper <diesk@fast.au.fujitsu.com> > >> Subject: Re: > >>>> Dissapointed To: users@glassfish.dev.java.net > >> Received: Sunday, 12 > >>>> July, 2009, 4:35 PM Hi Adam, > >>>> > >>>> I have deployed the application to the > latest > >> promoted build of GF > >>>> V2.1.1, and I did not see any error > messages. > >>>> > >>>> This is my environment: - > glassfish-installer-v2.1.1-b22-windows.jar - > >> JDK1.5 - JMS broker in > >>>> REMOTE mode - used "localhost" for the > host name > >> in the corbaname, > >>>> with the same port you used. > >>>> > >>>> I used two different clusters for the two > >> instances. I commented > >>>> out your injection of the > jms/PrepareReports into > >> a java.util.Queue > >>>> to get rid of those unrelated error > messages. > >>>> > >>>> I wonder whether our fix for issue 8350 > is > >> related. https://glassfish.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=8350 > >> > >>>> I hope this information helps you and > others > >> pinpoint what could be > >>>> causing the problems you've seen. > >>>> > >>>> I also reduced your timer period to a 1 > minute > >> interval, and see no > >>>> IIOP timeouts even after 20 calls. I did > see the > >> following IIOP > >>>> warning about a minute before the EJB > invocations > >> started: > >>>> > >> > [#|2009-07-12T15:59:52.218+1000|WARNING|sun-appserver2.1|javax.enterprise.resource.corba.ee.S1AS-ORB.rpc.transport|_ThreadID=19;_ThreadName=p: > >> > >>>> thread-pool-1; w: > >> > 3;6000;7280;;_RequestID=8940ea7e-e092-4d6d-8611-bea52f07358c;|"IOP00410229: > >> > >>>> (COMM_FAILURE) Blocking read failed, > >> expected to read additional > >>>> bytes:  max wait time = 6,000ms total > time > >> spent waiting = 7,280ms" > >>>> > >> > org.omg.CORBA.COMM_FAILURE:   vmcid: > SUN  minor code: 229 > >>>> completed: No at > >> > com.sun.corba.ee.impl.logging.ORBUtilSystemException.blockingReadTimeout(ORBUtilSystemException.java:3569) > >> > >>>> at > >> > com.sun.corba.ee.impl.logging.ORBUtilSystemException.blockingReadTimeout(ORBUtilSystemException.java:3593) > >> > >>>> at > >> > com.sun.corba.ee.impl.transport.SocketOrChannelConnectionImpl.blockingRead(SocketOrChannelConnectionImpl.java:1863) > >> > >>>> at > >> > com.sun.corba.ee.impl.transport.SocketOrChannelConnectionImpl.doOptimizedReadStrategy(SocketOrChannelConnectionImpl.java:1733) > >> > >>>> at > >> > com.sun.corba.ee.impl.transport.SocketOrChannelConnectionImpl.doWork(SocketOrChannelConnectionImpl.java:1263) > >> > >>>> at > >> > com.sun.corba.ee.impl.orbutil.threadpool.ThreadPoolImpl$WorkerThread.run(ThreadPoolImpl.java:555) > >> > >>>> |#] > >>>> > >>>> Regards, Dies > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Adam Jenkins wrote: > >>>>> The issues are > >>>>> > >>>>> https://glassfish.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=8589 > >>>> and https://glassfish.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=8590 > >>>>> The first one has a netbeans project > attached > >> that > >>>> reproduces things. > >>>>> Unfortunately I'm not able to point > you at the > >> source > >>>> (glassfish > >>>>> source) as I don't know.  It's > the > >> weekend here > >>>> at the moment, and I > >>>>> don't have to start moving to JBoss > until next > >> week so > >>>> I'm going to > >>>>> have an attempt at checking out the > glassfish > >> source > >>>> today and hoping > >>>>> for a miracle :) > >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@glassfish.dev.java.net > For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@glassfish.dev.java.net > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Access Yahoo!7 Mail on your mobile. 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