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Re: Sun, IBM and future of Glassfish project?

From: Kristian Rink <lists_at_zimmer428.net>
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:47:19 +0100

Mark Mielke schrieb:
[...]
> Probably a waste of time to consider unless/until such a merger is
> announced? Java still needs a reference implementation and IBM seems
> invested in Java. Concern should exist whether or not a merger goes
> ahead. Bad things could happen either way. Good things could happen
> either way.

Yes, and, from a "status quo" point of view I think you're perfectly right.
My question, however, is: It could take a couple of weeks / months for such
a merger to happen (if at all). Following this, it again could take months /
weeks unless there might be a clue which projects will be continued and
which eventually won't. My question is as simple as that: How many users
eventually will stay away from Glassfish during these months because of its
uncertain future? Some of them have gone through situations like these
before with BEA being acquired by Oracle, leaving some of the tools of both
companies virtually being "ceased" after that.


> There is entirely too much speculation / caution throughout the world
> and it is self-fulfilling. First somebody asks whether the sky might
> fall, then people pull their investments out "just in case", then the
> sky really does fall because nobody is invested any more. It's not a
> finger in the wound - it's dirt.

I think all the people around here, all those using Glassfish (including me,
actually, as well as the company I am working for / representing here which
still then and now proudly bears the Glassfish logo on its "partners" web
page) surely aren't likely to get upset by speculation and give up on things
because of that. My point of view, in this situation, is solely focused on
attracting new users, and these days convincing people to give Glassfish a
test drive is pretty hard because of reasons completely non-technical (which
hurts if you believe in a given piece of technology).


> P.S. One might speculate about DB2 vs MySQL if one really wants to go
> insane worrying about possibilities. :-)

Yes. And I am sure people will, as if being affected by such a situation it
seems just natural. I think there needs to be a "middle path" between blind
FUD and panic on one and a (same as blind?) "wait-and-see" position on the
other side. And this is all that is of interest to me at the moment - what's
this "middle path", doesn't it seem sane to discuss alternative options
while there's still(?) time for that? Not sure, though, also just an
outsider/user point of view on that...

Cheers,
Kristian


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