Well, personally I don't mind too much but some of my colleagues seem to do.
It will be interesting to see what items make it to the updatecenter.
Components for Glassfish (things like JPA implementations, JMS queue's
etc) do seem like a nice fit.
On Nov 15, 2007 7:13 PM, John Clingan <John.Clingan_at_sun.com> wrote:
> This is good feedback. I did send out an email a few days back asking
> what packages should be included in the update center.
> http://forums.java.net/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=33157&tstart=45
>
> Sounds like you are voting for Hibernate.
>
>
> On Nov 15, 2007, at 4:23 AM, Barry van Someren wrote:
>
> > Marina, John,
> >
> > Hi yes that will do of course.
> > I just meant that given Glassfish will become more modular, there
> > should maybe be separate modules so that you can pick which JPA will
> > be used.
> > Extra points if these modules can be added in the same way as the
> > extra's. (through the updatecenter or the admin interface)
> > I'd call this the least important thing I listed though and they would
> > certainly be a lot of work.
> >
> > As for the Maven bits, I might be able to find some time to help in
> > this as I'm becoming ever more proficient with the joys and pleasures
> > of Maven.
> > I'll start by checking out the the current V3 work and seeing how the
> > maven builds are progressing.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Barry
> >
> > On Nov 15, 2007 6:49 AM, John Clingan <John.Clingan_at_sun.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Nov 14, 2007, at 1:30 AM, Barry van Someren wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi there,
> >>>
> >>> Hope I'm not too late to the party here, but some tidbits that I
> >>> collected recently.. some of these have been mentioned here and I
> >>> just
> >>> want to second those.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Not too late!
> >>
> >>> -Maven support (run embedded, have plugins for deployment)
> >>> It would seem this already made the list :)
> >>>
> >>
> >> Yep, although I should say that we are doing our best to accommodate
> >> as many requests as possible but don't guarantee that any particular
> >> feature will make it in V3.
> >>
> >>> -More fine grained control over (session) bean lifecycle, pooling
> >>> and caching
> >>> Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems you can only control the total
> >>> pool sizes.
> >>> I'd like to be able to make a bigger pool of session beans that are
> >>> known to be lighter and a smaller pool of certain utility and
> >>> heavier
> >>> beans to better tune how the system is loaded.
> >>> We currently don't have any issues but it might be useful to allow
> >>> fine tuning.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Good feedback.
> >>
> >>> -Keep improving error messages and error handling.
> >>> Glassfish is going great in this department, keep at it as it
> >>> helps me
> >>> track down errors better.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Thanks for the feedback.
> >>
> >>> -Modules to replace Toplink by Hibernate
> >>> Modules seem to be the new direction that Glassfish is taking and we
> >>> would appreciate an easy to way to allow other implementations of
> >>> JPA
> >>> in.
> >>>
> >>
> >> As Marina mentioned in another response, this can already be done.
> >> http://blogs.sun.com/theaquarium/entry/running_hibernate_in_glassfish
> >> http://eskatos.wordpress.com/2007/10/09/hello-world/
> >>
> >>> -Allow the creation of Unit tests for EJB's by making an embedded
> >>> Glassfish, much like embedded JBoss
> >>> We unit test our EJB's using JBoss embedded (both to ensure our
> >>> application stays honest and to have complete testing in our build)
> >>> Currently we have to use JBoss embedded... having a Glassfish
> >>> version
> >>> is already listed in here and I can strongly second this :)
> >>>
> >>
> >> Good feedback.
> >>
> >>> -Keep working on the module/application installer, maybe integration
> >>> within the admin interface would be nice.
> >>> Glassfish comes with a small Java app to install extra's like
> >>> portals etc.
> >>> This is great and I hope to see this functionality inside the admin
> >>> interface.
> >>> Smack me if this is already implemented or listed please :)
> >>>
> >>
> >> Good feedback.
> >>
> >>> -While Glassfish will promote the use HK2, please make sure that
> >>> those
> >>> using OSGi within their applications will not be impacted too
> >>> severely
> >>> (IE try to keep the current classloader as pure as possible)
> >>> OSGi was selected to be used inside an EJB to handle some dynamic
> >>> plugins.
> >>> While we don't expect Glassfish to facilitate this explicitly, we
> >>> would like it if the classloader remains as much as it is right now
> >>> for the EJB's to avoid upsetting this delicate environment.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Thanks for *your* time! Great feedback.
> >>
> >>
> >>> Thank you for your time.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Barry van Someren
> >>> ---------------------------------------
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> >>> Email: goltharnl_at_gmail.com
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Oct 30, 2007 8:13 PM, John Clingan <John.Clingan_at_sun.com> wrote:
> >>>> If you have ideas of features or enhancements that you want in
> >>>> GlassFish V3, read on!
> >>>>
> >>>> GlassFish V1 was all about developer productivity and Java EE 5.
> >>>> GlassFish V2 adds enterprise features such as clustering and
> >>>> centralized administration. Now that GlassFish V2 has been
> >>>> released,
> >>>> it is time to begin planning for GlassFish V3. Before doing so,
> >>>> there
> >>>> needs to be a clear direction of where we are headed. We have
> >>>> outlined
> >>>> the high level themes for GlassFish V3 here (feel free to provide
> >>>> feedback on the themes):
> >>>> http://wiki.glassfish.java.net/Wiki.jsp?page=GlassFishV3Themes
> >>>>
> >>>> We would like to drill down a step further and begin to define
> >>>> GlassFish V3 with community involvement. That means you! Is there a
> >>>> feature or enhancement that you would like to see in GlassFish V3?
> >>>> Perhaps to make it easier to use or more relevant for your work
> >>>> environment?
> >>>> Please feel free to participate! I'd like to begin the
> >>>> discussion on
> >>>> this alias. Feel free to contact me directly as well at John dot
> >>>> Clingan at Sun dot COM. Depending on the level of interest, we can
> >>>> also set up a conference call and discuss in real time.
> >>>>
> >>>> Here are some sample questions that may stimulate some ideas:
> >>>>
> >>>> - A feature that would make software development significantly
> >>>> easier
> >>>> - A feature that differentiates GlassFish V3 from other application
> >>>> servers
> >>>> - A feature that is available with application server X, and would
> >>>> really benefit users if it were also in GlassFish V3
> >>>> - GlassFish would be easier to use if ...
> >>>> - If GlassFish had this feature I could deploy it to a broader
> >>>> production environment
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks!
> >>>> John Clingan
> >>>> GlassFish / Sun Application Server Group Product Manger
> >>>>
> >>>> John dot Clingan at Sun dot COM
> >>>>
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