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Re: Opinions Wanted: v3 GUI Prototype

From: Survivant 00 <survivant00_at_gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 18:24:08 -0500

one thing that I would like to have is a personalized dashboard. Like
google IGoogle page. You can add gadget to the main page and move them.

Like that I could create few main pages accessible with tabs and I
customized my views.



2009/2/25 Ken Paulsen <Ken.Paulsen_at_sun.com>

>
> Hi Kristian,
>
> Thanks for the great feedback! To answer your question regarding
> searching... currently we only search tags (not the content seen on any
> screens). Implementing a tag-search is very easy and straight-forward,
> searching localized content is much harder.
>
> Our thought for tags was that pages could be tagged with some default
> tags. The user can then add / remove tags they would like to see, for
> example I might put "ken" as a tag on the 5 or 6 pages I like to visit.
> Then the search would allow me to find those pages in 1 click. Tags might
> be task-oriented (monday tasks), content oriented (applications), or user
> oriented (ken).... depending on how you'd like to use them.
>
> We also plan to have a "settings..." page (the link is in the menu). This
> page will allow you to turn off features like tagging which might otherwise
> get in your way. :) The sliding panel on the right is supposed to remember
> to stay off the screen when you close it also -- that's a current bug.
>
> Thanks again for the feedback.
>
> Ken
>
>
> Kristian Rink wrote:
>
> Hi Ken, *;
>
> a few comments as I have stumbled across this earlier, already... :)
>
> Ken Paulsen schrieb:
>
>
> Here are some things we are particularly interested in feedback on:
> * Do you like/dislike the menus?
>
>
> Pretty good. Actually, the menu structure looks rather straightforward and
> quite task-oriented, in my opinion way more "logical" and consistent than
> the current tree-view navigation.
>
> That said: I liked the tree in GFv2 but maybe, if included in v3, it should
> be pruned a little - in my opinion it is too big right now, some things
> could eventually be arranged in a better way (like, in example, having just
> a tag "applications" to contain everything including webapps, ejb modules
> and the like in a table-like fashion explaining what kind of type each app
> is?).
>
>
>
>
> * Do you like/dislike the tagging feature?
>
>
> Well... so far tagging seems all around, but honestly speaking, personally I
> don't see much use in that feature, around here. Given a strictly outlined,
> usable, sane menu structure easily allowing for having all features just a
> click away, I am not sure why to eventually add even more complexity by
> introducing a navigation hierarchy / structure of my own... ;)
>
>
>
>
>
> Of course all other comments are also welcome (what's missing? what do
> you really like? what do you dislike? etc.).
>
>
> At first a "visual" thing: I would kinda scale down the big blue page header
> ("Glassfish V3 Prelude Administration Console"). Sure, it's not that big,
> but at least on my notebook display (1280x800), that's quite a big area on
> the screen not really containing any meaningful information. Having this
> header half as high still should be sufficient IMHO.
>
> Then: As stated I don't personally see the need to have tagging around.
> Other than that, I'd like to have the "search" facility located in some more
> exposed position (in the main menu?) as "fallback" given someone doesn't
> find/want to search the section required... Search does also search the
> admin_gui itself and not just the tags added to pages, doesn't it?
>
>
>
>
> * Performance -- it's not good right now, it will be MUCH better
> when it's not a prototype (note: it also doesn't help that this
> prototype is running on a small desktop machine over a DSL-line...
> ;) ).
>
>
> Been testing it using a thin DSL line myself, I think it's not all that bad
> either. ;)
>
>
>
>
> * Ajax for updating tags and other portions of the screen is not
> implemented
>
>
> Though I generally like AJAX being used in tools like this, I surely would
> enjoy seeing features like this dumped for the sake of performance in final
> release. Glassfish v2 admin_gui was quite a pleasant and usable experience
> but also had some minor glitches eventually could be done better (log
> viewer, in example). From that point of view, less AJAX for the sake of an
> admin_gui as light and responsive as somewhat possible seems desirable... In
> my opinion (even though drastically limited in terms of features), the ui of
> tomcat lambdaprobe management UI (lambdaprobe.org) still somewhat shines
> even obviously discontinued...
>
> Oh well, I'll better stop muttering now... :) Keep up the good work, all the
> best!
> K.
>
>
>
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