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Re: Untified description for Component

From: Lloyd L Chambers <Lloyd.Chambers_at_Sun.COM>
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 10:16:52 -0700

Chris,

What's the problem that needs solving? How is it not solved by
existing APIs in GlassFish?

I understand you have a solution. But I don't understand the issue
you propose to solve, its use cases and intended users, etc. Please
explain the background; the solution comes later.

Lloyd

On Sep 11, 2007, at 6:19 PM, liao wrote:

> Lloyd,
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> There are some kinds of services in J2ee domain? For example: EJB
> service, Datasource service and so on, and some
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> components live in these service domain. The following table will
> describes the mapping relationship between service
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> Service
> Component
> JDBC Service
> Datasource component
> EJB service
> EJB component(session.entity message bean)
> POJO service
> POJO component
> RMI service
> RMI component
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> All of the right column in the above table are components, which is
> a common featuer.It is right?
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> We can use a common way to describe it? So I designed a XML format
> for it,a demo is below:
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> <component id ="firstSource" type="Datasource">
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> id: component ID
> type: component type
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> The format looks very simple? Is similar to POJO description in
> IOC? Yes,In fact,I regard POJO Bean as a kind of simple
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> component.Different component,different description, you can define
> more detail for a component below component tag.
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> Commonly,we use containers to manage components in J2ee
> domain,include components'description. We can regard description
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> of a component as another useful object ? This is a core thinking
> in my server,I will send some introduction documents
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> about my server for referrence.Please save the attatchment to your
> local and click index.html file from the pressed file.
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Lloyd L Chambers
> To: dev_at_glassfish.dev.java.net
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 7:28 AM
> Subject: [金山毒霸识别此邮件为垃圾邮件] Re: Issue 2394
>
> Liao,
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> Not yet. You haven't told me what is compelling and why I (or
> someone else) should spend the time.
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> To "sell" your idea, I want to hear what problems you propose to
> solve. So far I don't understand what those problems are. If
> there is a clear and concise proposal detailing the issues to be
> addressed and the proposed solution, please send it to me directly,
> and I'll take a look.
>
> Lloyd
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> On Sep 11, 2007, at 4:31 AM, liao wrote:
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>> Hi Lloyd,
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>> You have run my server and read some documents from the server?
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>> Chris Liao
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Lloyd L Chambers
>> To: dev_at_glassfish.dev.java.net
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:51 AM
>> Subject: [金山毒霸识别此邮件为垃圾邮件] Re: Issue 2394
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>> Chris,
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>> From where do you get the term "management component"? Is it a
>> term you're inventing, or something that has been defined elsewhere?
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>> ===> Have you read the AMX documentation so we can talk a common
>> language about the management interface of GlassFish?
>>
>> Lloyd
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>> On Sep 10, 2007, at 4:36 PM, liao wrote:
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>>> Lloyd,
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>>> I want to address management components(MComponent),which are
>>> similar to management bean(MBean). In my eyes,
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>>> a MComponent should work as a bigger unit than a management
>>> bean.It maybe consists of more than one class instance,
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>>> For example: EJB2.0 component,which is consists of a home, a
>>> remote, a bean,it is right? We can regard MBean as a kind of
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>>> Components? Do you accept this point?  But how to describe
>>> components? I want to look for a unified format for them.
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>>> Those xml segments which were contained in my previouse are my
>>> sample.
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>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Lloyd L Chambers
>>> To: dev_at_glassfish.dev.java.net
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 12:34 AM
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>>> Liao,
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>>> What problem exactly are you trying to address?  I
>>> think this would be better written up in an HTML or PDF format.Ã
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>>> Have you read the AMX documentation? That is our current
>>> MBean API for public use.
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>>> https://glassfish.dev.java.net/javaee5/amx/index.html
>>>
>>> Lloyd
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>>> On Sep 9, 2007, at 8:26 PM, liao wrote:
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