Binod,
AdminApp != AdminService
AdminApp is really just a web layer that uses the admin facilities,
such as AMX. CLI is a layer that uses AMX and com.sun.appserv MBeans.
I think the conversation needs to be more precise as there are many
things involved, starting with the MBeanServer, and working up to the
GUI and CLI.
No productive discussion is possible without laying out all the
various pieces so that we can all talk about the same thing. :) I
don't have time for that right now.
Lloyd
On Dec 11, 2006, at 9:30 PM, Binod wrote:
> Lloyd L Chambers wrote:
>
>> Until time and memory are measured, terms like "bloating" ought
>> not to be used; it's best to measure and state facts rather than
>> use subjective FUD terms.
>> Gustav, have you any hard numbers? I'm not sure how that would
>> be possible, since it's not currently feasible to start the
>> server without the admin service.
>>
>> Deferring initialization of the AdminService (this is far, far
>> more than the admin port) is not currently possible for a variety
>> of dependencies.
>
> Perhaps adminapp loading can be deferred. Does directory deployment
> use HTTP/RMI connector? Tools use directory deployment. So, most of
> the time
> they may not need admin app, if directory deployment doesnt use the
> HTTP or RMI ports.
>
> - Binod.
>
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