From: Byron Nevins <byron.nevins_at_oracle.com>
Date: Fri, 07 May 2010 11:54:24 -0700

In a Enterprise system with multiple instances, you should not look at DAS as "owning" those instances.  It doesn't own them.  It is a glorified Bookkeeper/Reporter  etc.  It is critical that the instances can run perfectly with no DAS running, so we don't want to tie their lifecycles together.

So when you say start-domain you really mean "start-domain-administration-server" but that's way too much typing.


On 5/7/2010 7:48 AM, Tom Mueller wrote:

Comparing the help for start-domain and stop-domain, it is interesting that stop-domain makes it clear that only the DAS is stopped, but start-domain doesn't do the same:

DESCRIPTION
     The start-domain subcommand starts the specified domain.

DESCRIPTION
     The stop-domain subcommand stops the  Domain  Administration
     Server  (DAS) of the specified domain.

Tom

On 5/7/2010 9:35 AM, Tim Quinn wrote:

On May 7, 2010, at 9:22 AM, Tom Mueller wrote:

Is or will there be a command that will actually stop an entire domain, including all of the instances in all of the clusters?

Possible, but there was no such command in earlier versions that supported clusters. 

Sort of a "sell billions of shares rather than millions so that the whole market comes down" option.

Yes, let's make that even easier to do than it apparently already is!

Presumably, the "start-domain" command will start all clusters, right? So this means that stop-domain doesn't stop what start-domain started.

No.  The "domain" in the stop-domain and start-domain commands is the DAS and only the DAS.  

Will there be a command that starts just the DAS without starting the clusters?

That would be start-domain. :-)

- Tim

Tom

On 5/6/2010 10:41 PM, Byron Nevins wrote:

Sorry, I didn't see this email earlier.

That's how it worked in V2.




On 5/6/2010 10:53 AM, Bill Shannon wrote:

Byron Nevins wrote on 05/06/2010 12:55 AM:

stop-instance is working.   There is a remote command called "stop-instance" and a local command with the same name.  Exactly like stop-domain.  Try it!

stop-instance will NOT stop DAS.
stop-domain will NOT stop instances

Just to confirm, that's how it worked in v2, right?

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