Hi Tim,
Tim Quinn wrote:
> Kedar,
>
> This seems like a very nice usability enhancement.
Ok.
> One possible frustration awaits users... If the system is smart enough
> to tell me (as the user) what *I* should do to obtain the missing piece,
> why doesn't it just ask me if I want *it* to do it for me?
>
> EJB support is not currently installed. Would you like to download
> and install it now? [y/n]
Ummm. I almost felt like this is Vince Kraemer talking. I am not sure where he
is, but that's what he'd say.
Agree in principle. Given that many users install their own server and
developers generally manage their own servers (although they are getting
increasingly sophisticated) it might be possible to attempt this. This
would bring asadmin at par with GUI in terms of update center integration.
So, I gather that you guys are with me when I propose this then ...
-Kedar
PS - BTW, the arch review of asadmin spec is scheduled on 23rd March (Monday)
at 2.00, for an hour (that hardly suffices). If anyone wants to be present,
let me know and I will see if you can be invited.
>
> I remember with not much fondness a product I used back in the '80s
> called TDMS from Digital (both long gone!). It had a definition
> language in which the word "request" figured prominently. I remember
> with great disgust that, encountering the misspelling "reqeust" (I was a
> frequent offender) its diagnostic error would complain something like
>
> Found "reqeust." Did you mean "request?"
>
> Infuriating.
>
> - Tim
>
> Lloyd Chambers wrote:
>> It would be a nice touch.
>>
>> But what is the likelihood of using a command for something that is
>> not installed on the server (perhaps intentionally)...isn't that
>> putting the cart before the horse?
>>
>> Lloyd
>>
>> On Mar 12, 2009, at 3:12 PM, Kedar Mhaswade wrote:
>>
>>> Soliciting inputs from all of you regarding this interesting
>>> problem I am seeing with modular nature of the server.
>>>
>>> The inspiration is drawn from Ubuntu. On my Ubuntu machine, when I
>>> say "svn", it says:
>>>
>>> The program 'svn' is currently not installed. You can install it by
>>> typing:
>>>
>>> sudo apt-get install *subversion*
>>>
>>> Thus, it knows the "intent" of the user and helps him/her to get there.
>>>
>>> Wouldn't it be nice to have something similar for asadmin especially
>>> since we are in a diverse environments of distributions like web
>>> profile,
>>> full Java EE 6 profile, cluster-aware installation/domain,
>>> or just a domain that's missing certain "capabilities" that might be
>>> available in update center? e.g. you do
>>>
>>> asadmin migrate-timers ... on a domain/installation that has no
>>> EJB support and it comes back and says:
>>>
>>> EJB support is currently not installed. You can install it by typing
>>> pkg install glassfish-v3-ejb (or whatever that is).
>>>
>>> I am tempted to add this as a requirement in CLI spec. What are your
>>> thoughts? If we decide to do this, we need a lot of co-ordination across
>>> teams to do this.
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Kedar
>>>
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>>
>> Lloyd Chambers
>> lloyd.chambers_at_sun.com
>> GlassFish Team
>>
>>
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