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[ejb-spec users] Re: Happy New Year & Requirement

From: Steve Millidge (Payara) <"Steve>
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 10:09:09 +0000

Great idea and also would help with configuring MDB pools especially in the quite common case when you want a single MDB consumer to ensure strict FIFO processing so you need to set the MDB pool size to 1.

From: Abhishek Gupta [mailto:abhirockzz_at_gmail.com]
Sent: 19 January 2016 08:37
To: users_at_ejb-spec.java.net
Subject: [ejb-spec users] Re: Happy New Year & Requirement

Yes Arjan. That's simply because these configurations parameters are commonly available in most app servers. BTW, your suggestion of having @Pooled with elements as the config params is great - since it would avoid proliferation of annotations

@Adam - as mentioned earlier, 'initial' size would ensure 'eager' availability of EJBs. The container would invoke them on app startup and @PostConstruct can take care of the init logic etc etc. The 'min' param would define the minimum threshold which the container should strive to maintain.

Thanks
Abhishek



On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 1:47 PM, arjan tijms <arjan.tijms_at_gmail.com<mailto:arjan.tijms_at_gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Adam,

I guess Abhishek is referring to the same semantics that several well known connections pools have. They often have, min, max, and initial too.

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 9:13 AM, Adam Bien <abien_at_adam-bien.com<mailto:abien_at_adam-bien.com>> wrote:
Hi Abhishek,

I like your proposal even more. I started with the minimum requirement of having at least the max-size configured.

What is the difference between initial and min?

cheers,

adam
> On 18.01.2016, at 16:40, arjan tijms <arjan.tijms_at_gmail.com<mailto:arjan.tijms_at_gmail.com>> wrote:
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> I don't have a very strong preference, but with 3 annotations, one could also consider a @Pool or @Pooled annotation with 3 attributes
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> E.g.
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> @Pooled(
> min = 10,
> initial = 10,
> max = 20
> )
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> On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 4:33 PM, Abhishek Gupta <abhirockzz_at_gmail.com<mailto:abhirockzz_at_gmail.com>> wrote:
> Definitely +1. Good to see some EJB related discussions :-)
>
> The above mentioned annotations would help
>
> 1. Tune EJBs in a standard manner
> 2. Sending across a clear message w.r.t one of the most important EJB features e.g. @Stateless does not really say that you also have throtlling & pooling capabilities (one needs to mention it explicitly)
>
> I also suggest including another annotation: @javax.ejb.InitialPoolSize. This will aid in eager initialisation (just like Singleton EJBs) and ensure having enough firepower 'in the tank' to begin with
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> Thanks
> Abhishek
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> Thanks
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> Abhishek
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> On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 1:36 PM, arjan tijms <arjan.tijms_at_gmail.com<mailto:arjan.tijms_at_gmail.com>> wrote:
> +1
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> Pool settings as well as an @TransactionTimeout would be quite handy indeed.
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> On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 8:58 AM, <johan_at_lodgon.com<mailto:johan_at_lodgon.com>> wrote:
> +1
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> This really can save lots of boilerplate code in projects.
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