On 3/29/13 12:45 PM, Pete Muir wrote:
> On 29 Mar 2013, at 18:42, Jeremy Bauer <jrbauer_at_us.ibm.com> wrote:
>
>> I may have overlooked something, but does CDI allow non-private non-public methods to be final?
> No. Not *if* a proxy is required.
If the EJB container created the proxy, it won't include the non-public
methods. Even if the CDI spec allows more, a compliant EJB container
won't intercept on those...
-marina
>
>> With the new rules, couldn't we have this situation?
>>
>> @Stateless public class MyBean {
>> final void m() { };
>> }
>>
>> public class Other {
>> @EJB MyBean field; // PASS
>> @Inject MyBean field; // FAIL - unproxyable
>> }
>>
>>
>> -Jeremy
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Marina Vatkina <marina.vatkina_at_oracle.com>
>> To: jsr345-experts_at_ejb-spec.java.net,
>> Cc: Pete Muir <pmuir_at_bleepbleep.org.uk>, Jeremy Bauer/Rochester/IBM_at_IBMUS
>> Date: 03/28/2013 02:06 PM
>> Subject: [jsr345-experts] Re: Final methods in a bean class?
>>
>>
>>
>> So we are just catching up with the CDI spec ;)
>>
>> Thanks Pete.
>>
>> -marina
>>
>> On 3/28/13 11:21 AM, Pete Muir wrote:
>>> Static methods were never considered as a block to proxability.
>>>
>>> On 28 Mar 2013, at 18:20, Marina Vatkina <marina.vatkina_at_oracle.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> How about static methods?
>>>>
>>>> thanks,
>>>> -marina
>>>>
>>>> On 3/28/13 11:12 AM, Pete Muir wrote:
>>>>> We updated the requirements in CDI to specifically exclude private methods from proxability requirements. Note we moved this to it's own section - 3.15
>>>>>
>>>>> Pete
>>>>>
>>>>> On 28 Mar 2013, at 17:16, Marina Vatkina <marina.vatkina_at_oracle.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, Pete is on this list (and I'm cc-ing him here explicitly), but I don't think private final (or static final) methods should be restricted...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -marina
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/28/13 9:30 AM, Jeremy Bauer wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Marina,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Won't allowing final methods will cause an inconsistency with the CDI spec? CDI 1.0 section 5.4.1 says:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Certain legal bean types cannot be proxied by the container:
>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>> • classes which are declared final or have final methods,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And I believe this is true in CDI 1.1, but I don't have that spec handy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Jeremy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Marina Vatkina <marina.vatkina_at_oracle.com>
>>>>>>> To: jsr345-experts_at_ejb-spec.java.net,
>>>>>>> Date: 03/27/2013 06:21 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [jsr345-experts] Re: Final methods in a bean class?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After a longer discussion with Mark offline and not to allow users to
>>>>>>> shoot themselves into a foot, the new proposal is to change both
>>>>>>> statements as follow:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (a) "All non-static public methods of the bean class and of any
>>>>>>> superclasses except the java.lang.Object, are exposed as business methods."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (b) "Business methods exposed through the no-interface view must not be
>>>>>>> declared final."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let me know if anybody disagrees.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>> -marina
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 3/27/13 11:36 AM, Marina Vatkina wrote:
>>>>>>>> Experts,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The EJB spec currently requires that if a bean exposes a no-interface
>>>>>>>> view (see 4.9.8 Session Bean’s No-Interface View):
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (a) "All public methods of the bean class and of any superclasses
>>>>>>>> except the java.lang.Object, are exposed as business methods through
>>>>>>>> the no-interface view."
>>>>>>>> (b) "All methods of the bean class and any superclasses must not be
>>>>>>>> declared final."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For all other views the rules for a *business method* is
>>>>>>>> "The method must not be declared as final or static."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Does any of you see a problem with removing the rule (b) and changing
>>>>>>>> the rule (a) to:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "All non-final non-static public methods of the bean class and of any
>>>>>>>> superclasses except the java.lang.Object, are exposed as business
>>>>>>>> methods through the no-interface view."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>>> -marina
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>