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[jsr356-experts] Re: [jsr356-users] isActive() method removal from API

From: Danny Coward <danny.coward_at_oracle.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 14:22:12 -0800

Hi Bill,

Yes, you brought this up some time ago and we never resolved it.

As you point out doing an explicit test on the TCP connection is
expensive/unreliable. So I agree the notion of 'active' is not realistic.

What the websocket protocol does give us however is are the open and
close frames. I think its a useful concept for developers to be able
easily to list out the connections which the protocol has notified have
been opened, but have not notified that they are closed. In other words,
I think its going to be a very common (and repetitive) pattern in server
code to maintain a list of such 'open' connections, even if they still
need to code around cases where one or two rogue connections have simply
vanished without telling anyone.

I'd propose we rephrase/name these API calls to be based on what the
websocket protocol gives us (open/close frames), which I think addresses
the expense/reliablity issue you bring up, which relieving the developer
of what I think is a common programming task.

- Danny




On 11/26/12 1:00 PM, Bill Wigger wrote:
>
> Sorry, I have another method I would like to get rid of, or be
> enlightened about!
>
> On the Session object is this method:
>
> boolean isActive()
>
> Return true if and only if the underlying socket is open.
> Returns:
> whether the session is active.
>
> What concerns me about this call is the idea that one can easily tell
> if the socket is open. Using the standard socket API available from
> the JDK one cannot (at least I don't know how) in a straight forward
> manner. This is because if the other side closed the connection, then
> there is no notification given by the JDK to any type of "socket close
> callback" or "listener". How one finds out that a socket has been
> closed by the other side is to do a Read or Write on the socket and
> get an error or "EOF" back.
>
> But if a Read or Write fails, then the WebSocket user has already been
> notified. In the case of the read/onMessage listener I'm assuming it
> is via the EndPoint onError or OnClose method. In the case of a
> write/send an IOException would be thrown.
>
> So if the user is listening for messages, or sending messages, then
> they will know right away if the socket is no longer open. If the
> user is not listening for messages nor sending messages, I don't know
> how the server will be able to "poll" the connection to see if it is
> active.
>
> regards,
> Bill
>


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