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Re: Making EL easier to use

From: Lincoln Baxter, III <lincolnbaxter_at_gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 11:44:25 -0500

I agree with Martin.

One of the greatest strong-points of JavaEE components is their re-use
outside of the web-containers. CDI / Dependency Injection, for example,
already supports the SE environment (Weld does.) I'd like to see EL
available anywhere that contexts are available. The pairing of these two
tools is very powerful, both in the web-tier, and in the SE application
world. All that I need to do to see this value is to transpose Web
Applications into the world of Desktop Applications.

We've become so accustomed to these features, and I'd hate to go without it
in an application of similar complexity, just because it's on the Desktop,
not on the Web :)

--Lincoln

On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 1:34 AM, Martin Marinschek <
martin.marinschek_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Kin-Man
>
> > Should we then say EL will assume a bean-container and not worry about
> > SE environment? I know I said that our goal is to make EL easier to use
> > "inside and outside of Java EE", and what do we meant by "outside of
> > Java EE" then?
>
> Java EE means (at least for me) application server - bean containers
> are available and running on Java SE environments like a pure servlet
> container as well.
>
> best regards,
>
> Martin
>
> >> best regards,
> >>
> >> Martin
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