On 03/11/2014 19:44, Edward Burns wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 01 Nov 2014 10:14:10 +0000, Mark Thomas <markt_at_apache.org> said:
>
> EB> Thanks for your definitive answer. Is there any circumstance where you
> EB> can imagine supporting it?
>
> MT> Supporting it as in supporting the idea that it should be mandatory? No.
>
> MT> Supporting it as in Tomcat shipping with JASPIC support? Yes, with
> MT> caveats. Those caveats are:
>
> MT> - There needs to be an implementation on the table. We don't have that
> MT> yet.
> MT> - The impact any such implementation has on Tomcat internals.
> MT> - The size of the implementation. (The larger it is, the more likely it
> MT> would ship as an optional extra.)
> MT> - The demand for it.
>
> EB> It it a resource question?
>
> MT> Partly. It is on the TODO list but fairly near the bottom due to the
> MT> lack of demand for it.
>
> EB> Is it an architecture question?
>
> MT> No. I haven't looked at the architecture.
>
> EB> Is it because you feel JASPIC needs some improvements first?
>
> MT> No. I haven't looked at JASPIC in any details at all.
>
> Ok, these are actionable responses. Arjan, can you please get back to
> the list with a feel for if it's possible to do as you said with the
> Geronimo JASPIC impl?
>
> MT> There is also the ongoing issue of the ASF having access to the JavaEE
> MT> TCKs under terms that would enable us to continue release software
> MT> tested with the TCKs under the ALv2. I'd like to be able to test any
> MT> JASPIC implementation with the TCK before release and that doesn't look
> MT> like it is going to be an option any time soon.
>
> I can't comment on this, but I can say please encourage Gier to respond
> to Cameron's mail. If this has already happened, then my apologies.
No need to apologise. Several folks responded to Cameron's mail back in
August but he appears not to have seen those replies.
Pretty much the same set of responses was sent to his mail of a few days
ago. We are assuming he saw them since he is subscribed to the list but
it might be worth you pinging him to make sure he did.
Cheers,
Mark