Re: Welcome to JSR 311

From: Dhanji R. Prasanna <>
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 13:26:59 +1000

On 4/10/07, Paul Sandoz <> wrote:
> On Apr 6, 2007, at 1:29 AM, Dhanji R. Prasanna wrote:
> On 4/5/07, Marc Hadley < > wrote:
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> +1. This should be more intuitive than learning SAAJ for instance. I am
> always for anything that one can learn almost entirely via Javadoc and
> hands-on (which 11 packages may make difficult even if half can be ignored
> by the lay developer).
> Oh no not SAAJ! If we end up like SAAJ we will have truly failed :-) Given
> that we can limit our interaction with the DOM API i think we might be on
> safer ground :-)
> I think the API looks like it is starting achieve one goal, which is to
> help focus discussion.

hehe. =)
Yes I suppose my point is that it seems like a quite-lean api on the whole,
so why the package explosion?

> Is there a criteria for choosing what containers get a spi?
> Not sure i understand the question, can you give an example?

My bad, i misunderstood Marc to mean there were specific containers you
wanted to support in the spi.

We found the container SPI very useful and quick to integrate new
> containers. So we thought it would be useful to present this to the EG and
> see it this is a worth while thing to do i.e. is there a benefit? or is it
> better to leave this type of thing to each implementation?

I wasnt able to find a container impl based on the spi in the files on there a good example somewhere? I think seeing it in
use would give us a better idea as to its implementability.

Just a couple of trivial qns:
The packages are under rather than javax.jws--is this only because
jsr311 is not a WSDL-style webservice?
The packages are named, rather than as in the
initial proposal--any reason for this change?