[jpa-spec users] [jsr338-experts] Re: JPQL: Sorting on optional references

From: Steve Ebersole <>
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 08:59:58 -0500

On Wed 29 Aug 2012 08:56:36 AM CDT, Oliver Gierke wrote:

> If you want performance you probably craft your joins manually anyway. But I'd bet that more than 90% of JPA users would *not* expect adding an order by clause to the simplest query possible would rule out entities from the result.

Yes and no. I just understand implicit joins are inner joins. I don't
even have to think about optionality...