Do you know any other framework that will play well in app engine
environment as a replacement to JAXB?
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Paul Sandoz <Paul.Sandoz_at_sun.com> wrote:
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> On Apr 14, 2009, at 11:10 AM, Walter Chang wrote:
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> this is my understanding and i could be wrong:
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> first of all, gae supports java 1.5 which does not have jaxb by default.
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> See here:
> http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/java/overview.html
> "The Java environment provides a Java 6 JVM"
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> secondly, i think they are using a real java vm. its just that they slap on
> a security manager to make things tough on all of us (for good reason, i
> presume).
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> They restrict what classes are available in the JDK,
> essentially sub-setting Java:
> http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/java/jrewhitelist.html
> There is also a disparity between what is run locally for testing and what
> is run remotely (where the sub-set is enforced).
> This is all still early days so things might change. But it ain't currently
> Java IMHO. It is a Java-like environment, a Guava environment if you like
> :-)
> Paul.
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> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Paul Sandoz <Paul.Sandoz_at_sun.com> wrote:
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>> On Apr 10, 2009, at 6:16 PM, Tatu Saloranta wrote:
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>>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Paul Sandoz <Paul.Sandoz_at_sun.com> wrote:
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>>>> Hi Erdinc,
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>>>> It seems like GAE subsets JDK 6. I wonder why?
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>>> I could be wrong, but based on my observations of Android platform
>>> (...yuck), it seems as if they had some sort of attitude regarding
>>> knowing better what to include, what not. And not being worried but
>>> following some subset (standard or de facto). Sort of like attitude I
>>> usually attributed to Microsoft SDK development teams. Or maybe it's
>>> just me. It could also be that developers in question are bit junior
>>> and ignorant of what's out there.
>>>
>>> It was frustrating trying to find rhyme or reason for Android's
>>> inclusion or exclusion of some parts of JDK. Some very strange
>>> external packages are, for example, included in their SDK, and many
>>> from regular JDK (esp. within areas of basic XML APIs,
>>> javax.xml.transfrom.stream to get Source objects used by JAXP) are
>>> omitted.
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>> I agree it is frustrating.
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>> IMHO GAE does not currently support Java and it is irresponsible to say
>> that it does.
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>> Call it something else, call it Guava, but please do not call it Java.
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>> Paul.
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