On Sep 24, 2008, at 6:20 PM, Reza Rahman wrote:
> Paul,
>
> * Thanks for persisting with this.
> - No problem. It isn't often that you get a shot at making a
> difference in the industry you work in; I'm just trying to make the
> best of it. I think this is an important point in keeping Java EE a
> viable if not attractive choice for developers. I'll loop in Rob
> immediately given the time-frame you expressed. I am sorry I can't
> help with this myself right now. I'll try to keep up with Rob though
> and see if he needs anything from me.
>
OK. Hi Rob!
> * It would be really good to achieve the equivalent thing with EE 6
> with EJBs/WebBeans (i still don't have a clear picture of how the
> two will fit together for EE 6).
> - Same here. I'm not sure anyone has a concrete picture yet...maybe
> Gavin has some kind of a vision but it is yet to be clearly/
> unequivocally communicated...that's another reason why I'd like to
> see an independent integration point with EJB 3.x, much like JBoss
> RESTeasy.
>
I think the current state of affairs as i understand it is we are
about 90% of what RESTeasy does, the only thing lacking is the
solution is not portable, because the JNDI names is derived from the
class name. This is great from an ease of use perspective :-) as there
is no difference in terms of configuration you just configure the
package names to scan for classes.
I did start to investigate adding an example but i quickly got lost in
terms of creating things using Maven.
> * As i understand from what you told me about EJB 3.1 not requiring
> interfaces and packaging in the Web tier it looks possible to get
> close to this.
> - Yes, this is absolutely the case (as is the standardization of
> global JNDI names). The EJB 3.1 draft spec will be out soon. Feel
> free to give it a brief look to verify and perhaps provide your
> feedback to Ken and the rest of the EJB 3.1 EG, just as you did to
> me...
>
OK. Internally i have pointed out the NB Spring example as something
that i think we should be heading towards so i think people are
generally aware, but yes, i do need to read the specs EJB and WebBeans
more closely and provide more concise feedback. When JAX-RS 1.1 starts
i am sure we will get into more technical details in this respect with
other specs.
> I'll continue to keep in touch.
>
Great,
Paul.
> Cheers,
> Reza
>
>
> Paul Sandoz wrote:
>> Hi Reza,
>>
>> On Sep 24, 2008, at 4:22 PM, Reza Rahman wrote:
>>
>>> Paul,
>>>
>>> I have a little bit of breathing room at the moment and would like
>>> to restart this discussion in earnest.
>>>
>>
>> Thanks for persisting with this.
>>
>>
>>> I found someone potentially very good to give you a hand with this
>>> if you are still interested. Indeed, he is senior enough such that
>>> he doesn't really need any help from me per-se. The gentleman's
>>> name is Rob Di Marco and he is a long-time Java EE consultant and
>>> a good friend of mine. He certainly has a good deal of comfort
>>> with EJB 3 and JAX-WS and has had some recent exposure to JAX-RS.
>>> He would definitely be interested in becoming a Jersey committer.
>>
>> Great!
>>
>>
>>> Should I go ahead and have him connect up with you? Is it most
>>> appropriate for him to join the developer mailing list or should
>>> he start here?
>>>
>>
>> Join this list. We do have a dev list as well but it rarely gets
>> used.
>>
>>
>>> To get the conversation started solidly, could you kindly outline
>>> what you would be looking for him to do and what a tentative time-
>>> frame would be? Is it primarily coding, testing or documentation
>>> help (fine either way, just would like to have an idea in advance)?
>>>
>>
>> In general i think the scope is open to anything related to getting
>> better EE integration and communicating how it is achieved.
>>
>> We are going 1.0 is about 2 to 3 weeks so in the short-term
>> documented examples for EE 5 are probably the best thing.
>>
>> In the long term i think it would be most useful to track what is
>> required for JAX-RS 1.1 that aligns with EE 6 and work together on
>> JAX-RS EE 6 integration.
>>
>> I was thinking about this area again and was wondering what the
>> ideal EE 6 approach would be with JAX-RS. NetBeans 6.5 beta has
>> support for generated resource classes from entity beans. If the
>> spring framework is included in the Web Application then Spring-
>> based transactional support with annotations is utilized. It would
>> be really good to achieve the equivalent thing with EE 6 with EJBs/
>> WebBeans (i still don't have a clear picture of how the two will
>> fit together for EE 6). As i understand from what you told me about
>> EJB 3.1 not requiring interfaces and packaging in the Web tier it
>> looks possible to get close to this.
>>
>> Paul.
>>
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