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Re: maven-jaxb2-plugin to renamed due to a trademark/naming convention issue with Apache

From: Ioannis Mavroukakis <imavroukakis_at_gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 21:01:13 +0100

xjc-maven-plugin would get my vote. I don't think that Oracle would be so
obtuse^H^H^H^H^H difficult as to oppose this, but I would get this in
writing.

On 16 October 2014 20:55, Aleksei Valikov <valikov_at_gmx.net> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> mvn-jaxb2-plugin is an idea. Does not follow the proposed convention
> strictly, though (
> http://maven.apache.org/guides/plugin/guide-java-plugin-development.html).
>
> Another option would be xjc-maven-plugin. I hope I won't get a C&D from
> Oracle for using the XJC name here. :)
>
> Best wishes,
> Alexey
>
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 8:06 PM, Wolfgang Laun <wolfgang.laun_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Aleksei:
>>
>> So if the Injuns stick to their exclusive-rights policy: what about
>> renaming your plugin
>>
>> mvn-jaxb2-plugin
>>
>> -W
>>
>> On 16 October 2014 19:24, KARR, DAVID <dk068x_at_att.com> wrote:
>>
>>> That’s just weird. Anyone can see that it’s logical to name plugins
>>> in ANY plugin architecture like
>>> “<AppWithPluginArchitecture>-<PluginName>-plugin”. Forcing people to
>>> reverse that is confusing. Consider “eclipse-maven-plugin” and
>>> “maven-eclipse-plugin”. It’s obvious to anyone aware of that convention
>>> that the first is a plugin for Eclipse that supports maven (even if the
>>> main plugin that does this is named differently), and the second is a
>>> plugin for Maven that supports Eclipse. They want you to name your plugin
>>> “jaxb2-maven-plugin”, so I guess that’s a plugin for jaxb2 that supports
>>> Maven, right? :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Whether a plugin is “officially supported” should be determined more by
>>> its group id than the artifact id. When artifact ids conflict, that’s your
>>> only choice.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* aleksei.valikov_at_gmail.com [mailto:aleksei.valikov_at_gmail.com] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Aleksei Valikov
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 16, 2014 4:13 AM
>>> *To:* users_at_jaxb.java.net
>>> *Subject:* maven-jaxb2-plugin to renamed due to a trademark/naming
>>> convention issue with Apache
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As many of you probably know, I develop and maintain the
>>> maven-jaxb2-plugin. I am facing a trademark/naming convention issue with
>>> Apache and I'd appreciate an advice on that.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have started my project almost 8 years ago and took the name
>>> maven-jaxb2-plugin as it seemed to be _the_ right convention back then.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Few years later Apache estabinished the some-maven-plugin convention for
>>> non-Apache plugins. This is how they define it here:
>>> http://maven.apache.org/guides/plugin/guide-java-plugin-development.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *You will typically name your plugin **<yourplugin>-maven-plugin**.*
>>>
>>> *Calling it **maven-<yourplugin>-plugin** (note "Maven" is at the
>>> beginning of the plugin name) is strongly discouraged since it's a reserved
>>> naming pattern for official Apache Maven plugins maintained by the Apache
>>> Maven team with groupId **org.apache.maven.plugins**. Using this naming
>>> pattern is an infringement of the Apache Maven Trademark.*
>>>
>>> This became a warning during the build around three years ago. My plugin
>>> was ~5 years old back then, with an already established user base etc. I
>>> did not want to rename. This was a mistake, but it is a mistake already
>>> made.
>>>
>>> I also think I haven't seen this warning for the long time as there was
>>> no need to update the versions of Maven libraries I used
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Now an Apache committer, also a user of my plugin tried to clarified the
>>> legal terms of this naming. Unfortunately, Apache seems to have a very
>>> strict position on the issue. Please check this message:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@maven.apache.org/msg102491.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> And the further discussion.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So in the current situation, using the maven-jaxb2-plugin further on, I
>>> am
>>>
>>> * facing a threat of cease-and-desist letter and
>>>
>>> * a probability that my plugin will stop working/compiling any time soon.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I would not speculate on whether this trademark infringement thing is
>>> legally sound or not. It does not matter. They're an organisation, I'm a
>>> private person. I can't fight them. An even if the legal threat is unsound,
>>> they can easily shut down my plugin technically in any next version of
>>> Maven.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So the thing is that I have no other choice as to rename my plugin.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have not yet desided on the name. The first choice would be
>>> jaxb2-maven-plugin, but there is already another Maven plugin under that
>>> name, from Codehaus. Yes, sure, groupId is different but people will mix
>>> them up, definitely.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Any other name will disconnect my plugin from its longstanding history
>>> even more. This will hurt my user base. I don't want this.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Merging the projects is probably not an option.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So my options are:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> * rename to jaxb2-maven-plugin or
>>>
>>> * rename to something else
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I do not know what to do and would really appreciate opinions and advice.
>>>
>>> (I'm not talking legal advice of any kind, more common sense community
>>> advice.)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>>
>>> Alexey
>>>
>>
>>
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