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[jax-rs-spec users] Re: [javaee-spec users] [jsr366-experts] update to Java EE 8 plan

From: Sergey Beryozkin <sberyozkin_at_talend.com>
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2016 09:23:08 +0100

I'm finding this quite boring to be honest, seeing the constant stream
of negative comments. I'd like to stay positive on the future of JAX-RS

Sergey
On 07/09/16 18:06, Markus KARG wrote:
>
> Frankly spoken I do not care whom fault it was, as I do very strongly
> care about the rules of the JCP being harmed by pausing a lot of JSRs
> for months over and over again.
>
> -Markus
>
> *From:*Sergey Beryozkin [mailto:sberyozkin_at_talend.com]
> *Sent:* Dienstag, 6. September 2016 21:57
> *To:* jsr370-experts_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net
> *Subject:* Re: [javaee-spec users] [jsr366-experts] update to Java EE
> 8 plan
>
> Markus,
> The last thing I'm worried about at this stage is that I have not
> being informed earlier :-). I trust it was not the choice of spec
> leads not to pause the active dev of this spec. I guess it is obvious
> the whole process undergoes significant disruptive changes. If Marek
> gets out the 1st API out to Central I will celebrate (I do believe
> Marek will do it - he said he would look)
>
> Sergey
>
> On 06/09/16 17:42, Markus KARG wrote:
>
> I wonder why Ed Burns does the talk. He never was part of the
> JAX-RS inner circle. Also the topic is "suggestions", not "the
> final answer", which is a bit sad. I expected a talk by Marek
> about "What definitively will be in the box".
>
> Anyways, it is a real pity that few weeks before J1 the JSR 370
> Expert Group still was not informed about the updated plan. Seems
> either Oracle still has no clue what to tell at J1, or they do not
> think we are worth knowing it before others.
>
> -Markus
>
> *From:*Sergey Beryozkin [mailto:sberyozkin_at_talend.com]
> *Sent:* Montag, 5. September 2016 13:42
> *To:* jsr370-experts_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net
> <mailto:jsr370-experts_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [javaee-spec users] [jsr366-experts] update to Java
> EE 8 plan
>
> Interesting I was browsing around for more info about the
> forthcoming closure of Java.net and found
>
> https://oracle.rainfocus.com/scripts/catalog/oow16.jsp?event=javaone&search=Con7983&search.event=javaone
>
> So if a JAX-RS 2.1 talk is planned then surely some more activity
> will likely to happen soon on this list too :-) ?
>
> Cheers, Sergey
> On 23/08/16 17:38, Sergey Beryozkin wrote:
>
> I think it means it will live.
> I'm not worried right now at all about the missed original
> schedules.
> We are moving slowly forward, Marek will look at publishing
> the very 1st early 2.1 API soon, and we will
> keep moving from there.
>
> Good news
>
> Sergey
> On 23/08/16 17:29, Markus KARG wrote:
>
> What does that mean for JSR 370? Apparently the original
> and updated schedules are overdue. Will the JSR get
> restarted? When? With what particular target functionality?
>
> -Markus
>
> *From:*Marek Potociar [mailto:marek.potociar_at_oracle.com]
> *Sent:* Dienstag, 23. August 2016 18:16
> *To:* jsr370-experts_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net
> <mailto:jsr370-experts_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net>;
> users_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net <mailto:users_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net>
> *Subject:* Fwd: [javaee-spec users] [jsr366-experts]
> update to Java EE 8 plan
>
> FYI.
>
> Marek
>
>
>
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> *From: *Bill Shannon <bill.shannon_at_oracle.com
> <mailto:bill.shannon_at_oracle.com>>
>
> *Subject: [javaee-spec users] [jsr366-experts] update to
> Java EE 8 plan*
>
> *Date: *23 August 2016 at 02:05:23 GMT+2
>
> *To: *jsr366-experts_at_javaee-spec.java.net
> <mailto:jsr366-experts_at_javaee-spec.java.net>
>
> *Reply-To: *jsr366-experts_at_javaee-spec.java.net
> <mailto:jsr366-experts_at_javaee-spec.java.net>
>
> As many of you have read in the press [1], Oracle is
> reevaluating the
> scope and plans for Java EE 8. Based on the changes we've
> seen in the
> industry in recent years, we believe we need to do more to
> Java EE to
> make it better suited for developing the next generation
> of cloud
> and microservices applications.
>
> The current generation of enterprise Java applications is
> already well
> supported by Java EE 7 in cloud services provided by
> Oracle and
> others. As Anil Gaur said in his recent presentation to
> the JCP EC [2]:
>
> We would like the future of Java EE to be viable to
> next generation
> of applications. These apps are composed and deployed
> differently
> in cloud and require flexibility, reliability and
> scale. The
> platform needs a new programming model that's geared
> towards
> reactive style programming for building large-scale
> distributed
> applications that are loosely coupled. In addition, we
> would like
> to see HTTP/2, Config, State management, Eventual
> Consistency,
> Multi-tenancy, O-Auth and OpenID Connect get included
> in the
> platform.
>
> It is critical that Java EE reflect the needs of the
> community. We are
> preparing another community survey, similar to the survey
> we did in
> 2014 [3], to assess whether the community shares our views
> about
> what's needed in Java EE. We expect this survey to be
> available in
> the next few weeks. We'll also be looking at the results
> of other
> surveys and community input, and will be continuing our
> discussions
> with Java EE licensees. At JavaOne we'll be presenting
> our proposals
> for updates to Java EE and gathering feedback from attendees.
>
> After considering the results of our survey and other
> feedback, we'll
> adjust the plans for Java EE 8, with a goal of delivering
> Java EE 8
> within a year. Much of the initially planned work is
> nearly complete
> or well on its way, but new work will need to be done more
> quickly than
> usual. Obviously all desired work will not be able to be
> done in Java
> EE 8 and some planned work may no longer be important.
>
> This short schedule for Java EE 8 will allow us to move
> quickly into
> planning for Java EE 9, which will be able to take
> advantage of the
> Java SE 9 Jigsaw module system, and will give us more time
> for some of
> the larger improvements to the Java EE programming model.
>
> Stay tuned for more information about our community
> survey, and join us
> at JavaOne to hear more about our proposals for Java EE.
>
> Your opinion is valuable to us and we look forward to
> collaborating with you.
>
>
> [1]
> http://www.infoworld.com/article/3098007/java/oracle-to-reboot-java-ee-for-the-cloud.html
> [2]
> https://jcp.org/aboutJava/communityprocess/ec-public/materials/2016-08-09/August-2016-Public-Minutes.html
> [3] https://blogs.oracle.com/ldemichiel/
>