Anyways, I am happy that we can go on with this JSR. :-)
From: Marek Potociar [mailto:marek.potociar_at_oracle.com]
Sent: Mittwoch, 21. September 2016 00:50
To: jsr370-experts_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net
Subject: Re: [jax-rs-spec users] [javaee-spec users] [jsr366-experts] update to Java EE 8 plan
That is just your personal interpretation (which is your prerogative). My prerogative is then to say that I don’t see it the same way and disagree with your interpretation :)
Marek
On 15 Sep 2016, at 13:39, Markus KARG <markus_at_headcrashing.eu> wrote:
It is very sad to understand that your recent statement effectively means that Oracle intentionally interferes the work of this expert group in favor of the show effect of their key note at J1. :-(
-Markus
From: Marek Potociar [mailto:marek.potociar_at_oracle.com]
Sent: Mittwoch, 14. September 2016 16:50
To: jsr370-experts_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net
Subject: Re: [jax-rs-spec users] [javaee-spec users] [jsr366-experts] update to Java EE 8 plan
Oracle will be announcing the updated plans with Java EE during J1 keynote. We can then update the EG mailing list with the announced plans for your convenience, so that you do not have to browse around.
Marek
On 13 Sep 2016, at 22:42, Sergey Beryozkin < <mailto:sberyozkin_at_talend.com> sberyozkin_at_talend.com> wrote:
What about the spec leads keeping this list updated as opposed to us browsing around in order to be aware of the plans ?
Sergey
On 13/09/16 15:36, Marek Potociar wrote:
JavaOne keynote and subsequent JAX-RS related talks next week should give you the answers that you have been looking for. Stay tuned.
Marek
On 08 Sep 2016, at 18:41, Markus KARG < <mailto:markus_at_headcrashing.eu> markus_at_headcrashing.eu> wrote:
Let's see what happens.
From: Sergey Beryozkin [ <mailto:sberyozkin_at_talend.com> mailto:sberyozkin_at_talend.com]
Sent: Donnerstag, 8. September 2016 10:23
To: <mailto:jsr370-experts_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net> jsr370-experts_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net
Subject: Re: [javaee-spec users] [jsr366-experts] update to Java EE 8 plan
I'm finding this quite boring to be honest, seeing the constant stream of negative comments. I'd like to stay positive on the future of JAX-RS
Sergey
On 07/09/16 18:06, Markus KARG wrote:
Frankly spoken I do not care whom fault it was, as I do very strongly care about the rules of the JCP being harmed by pausing a lot of JSRs for months over and over again.
-Markus
From: Sergey Beryozkin [ <mailto:sberyozkin_at_talend.com> mailto:sberyozkin_at_talend.com]
Sent: Dienstag, 6. September 2016 21:57
To: <mailto:jsr370-experts_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net> jsr370-experts_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net
Subject: Re: [javaee-spec users] [jsr366-experts] update to Java EE 8 plan
Markus,
The last thing I'm worried about at this stage is that I have not being informed earlier :-). I trust it was not the choice of spec leads not to pause the active dev of this spec. I guess it is obvious the whole process undergoes significant disruptive changes. If Marek gets out the 1st API out to Central I will celebrate (I do believe Marek will do it - he said he would look)
Sergey
On 06/09/16 17:42, Markus KARG wrote:
I wonder why Ed Burns does the talk. He never was part of the JAX-RS inner circle. Also the topic is "suggestions", not "the final answer", which is a bit sad. I expected a talk by Marek about "What definitively will be in the box".
Anyways, it is a real pity that few weeks before J1 the JSR 370 Expert Group still was not informed about the updated plan. Seems either Oracle still has no clue what to tell at J1, or they do not think we are worth knowing it before others.
-Markus
From: Sergey Beryozkin [ <mailto:sberyozkin_at_talend.com> mailto:sberyozkin_at_talend.com]
Sent: Montag, 5. September 2016 13:42
To: <mailto:jsr370-experts_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net> jsr370-experts_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net
Subject: Re: [javaee-spec users] [jsr366-experts] update to Java EE 8 plan
Interesting I was browsing around for more info about the forthcoming closure of <
http://java.net/> Java.net and found
<
https://oracle.rainfocus.com/scripts/catalog/oow16.jsp?event=javaone&search=Con7983&search.event=javaone>
https://oracle.rainfocus.com/scripts/catalog/oow16.jsp?event=javaone&search=Con7983&search.event=javaone
So if a JAX-RS 2.1 talk is planned then surely some more activity will likely to happen soon on this list too :-) ?
Cheers, Sergey
On 23/08/16 17:38, Sergey Beryozkin wrote:
I think it means it will live.
I'm not worried right now at all about the missed original schedules.
We are moving slowly forward, Marek will look at publishing the very 1st early 2.1 API soon, and we will
keep moving from there.
Good news
Sergey
On 23/08/16 17:29, Markus KARG wrote:
What does that mean for JSR 370? Apparently the original and updated schedules are overdue. Will the JSR get restarted? When? With what particular target functionality?
-Markus
From: Marek Potociar [ <mailto:marek.potociar_at_oracle.com> mailto:marek.potociar_at_oracle.com]
Sent: Dienstag, 23. August 2016 18:16
To: <mailto:jsr370-experts_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net> jsr370-experts_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net; <mailto:users_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net> users_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net
Subject: Fwd: [javaee-spec users] [jsr366-experts] update to Java EE 8 plan
FYI.
Marek
Begin forwarded message:
From: Bill Shannon < <mailto:bill.shannon_at_oracle.com> bill.shannon_at_oracle.com>
Subject: [javaee-spec users] [jsr366-experts] update to Java EE 8 plan
Date: 23 August 2016 at 02:05:23 GMT+2
To: <mailto:jsr366-experts_at_javaee-spec.java.net> jsr366-experts_at_javaee-spec.java.net
Reply-To: <mailto:jsr366-experts_at_javaee-spec.java.net> jsr366-experts_at_javaee-spec.java.net
As many of you have read in the press [1], Oracle is reevaluating the
scope and plans for Java EE 8. Based on the changes we've seen in the
industry in recent years, we believe we need to do more to Java EE to
make it better suited for developing the next generation of cloud
and microservices applications.
The current generation of enterprise Java applications is already well
supported by Java EE 7 in cloud services provided by Oracle and
others. As Anil Gaur said in his recent presentation to the JCP EC [2]:
We would like the future of Java EE to be viable to next generation
of applications. These apps are composed and deployed differently
in cloud and require flexibility, reliability and scale. The
platform needs a new programming model that's geared towards
reactive style programming for building large-scale distributed
applications that are loosely coupled. In addition, we would like
to see HTTP/2, Config, State management, Eventual Consistency,
Multi-tenancy, O-Auth and OpenID Connect get included in the
platform.
It is critical that Java EE reflect the needs of the community. We are
preparing another community survey, similar to the survey we did in
2014 [3], to assess whether the community shares our views about
what's needed in Java EE. We expect this survey to be available in
the next few weeks. We'll also be looking at the results of other
surveys and community input, and will be continuing our discussions
with Java EE licensees. At JavaOne we'll be presenting our proposals
for updates to Java EE and gathering feedback from attendees.
After considering the results of our survey and other feedback, we'll
adjust the plans for Java EE 8, with a goal of delivering Java EE 8
within a year. Much of the initially planned work is nearly complete
or well on its way, but new work will need to be done more quickly than
usual. Obviously all desired work will not be able to be done in Java
EE 8 and some planned work may no longer be important.
This short schedule for Java EE 8 will allow us to move quickly into
planning for Java EE 9, which will be able to take advantage of the
Java SE 9 Jigsaw module system, and will give us more time for some of
the larger improvements to the Java EE programming model.
Stay tuned for more information about our community survey, and join us
at JavaOne to hear more about our proposals for Java EE.
Your opinion is valuable to us and we look forward to collaborating with you.
[1]
<
http://www.infoworld.com/article/3098007/java/oracle-to-reboot-java-ee-for-the-cloud.html>
http://www.infoworld.com/article/3098007/java/oracle-to-reboot-java-ee-for-the-cloud.html
[2]
<
https://jcp.org/aboutJava/communityprocess/ec-public/materials/2016-08-09/August-2016-Public-Minutes.html>
https://jcp.org/aboutJava/communityprocess/ec-public/materials/2016-08-09/August-2016-Public-Minutes.html
[3] <
https://blogs.oracle.com/ldemichiel/>
https://blogs.oracle.com/ldemichiel/