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[jax-rs-spec users] Re: Fwd: [javaee-spec users] [jsr366-experts] update to Java EE 8 plan

From: Werner Keil <werner.keil_at_gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 12:32:22 +0200

I guess most JSRs (those that were not already withdrawn like e.g. 351)
should continue, assuming the Renewal Ballot (370 will also face no later
than November, unless an EDR1 was filed first?;-) does not shut them down.

What Anil couldn't answer yet is, where hosting should move to or start
again after java.net is closed? Like a few other JSRs especially the more
recent ones, JAX-RS at least got a mirror on GitHub:
https://github.com/jax-rs

Unless Oracle defines another place on a corporate/JCP level, that all JSRs
should use or has a sudden change of heart extending java.net beyond next
April, I assume 370 could also continue on GitHub.

Werner


On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 11:15 AM, <users-request_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net>
wrote:

> Table of contents:
>
> 1. [jax-rs-spec users] Fwd: [javaee-spec users] [jsr366-experts] update to
> Java EE 8 plan - Marek Potociar <marek.potociar_at_oracle.com>
> 2. [jax-rs-spec users] Re: [javaee-spec users] [jsr366-experts] update to
> Java EE 8 plan - "Markus KARG" <markus_at_headcrashing.eu>
> 3. [jax-rs-spec users] Re: [javaee-spec users] [jsr366-experts] update to
> Java EE 8 plan - Sergey Beryozkin <sberyozkin_at_talend.com>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Marek Potociar <marek.potociar_at_oracle.com>
> To: jsr370-experts_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net, users_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net
> Cc:
> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 18:15:47 +0200
> Subject: [jax-rs-spec users] Fwd: [javaee-spec users] [jsr366-experts]
> update to Java EE 8 plan
> FYI.
>
> Marek
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> *From: *Bill Shannon <bill.shannon_at_oracle.com>
> *Subject: **[javaee-spec users] [jsr366-experts] update to Java EE 8 plan*
> *Date: *23 August 2016 at 02:05:23 GMT+2
> *To: *jsr366-experts_at_javaee-spec.java.net
> *Reply-To: *jsr366-experts_at_javaee-spec.java.net
>
> As many of you have read in the press [1], Oracle is reevaluating the
> scope and plans for Java EE 8. Based on the changes we've seen in the
> industry in recent years, we believe we need to do more to Java EE to
> make it better suited for developing the next generation of cloud
> and microservices applications.
>
> The current generation of enterprise Java applications is already well
> supported by Java EE 7 in cloud services provided by Oracle and
> others. As Anil Gaur said in his recent presentation to the JCP EC [2]:
>
> We would like the future of Java EE to be viable to next generation
> of applications. These apps are composed and deployed differently
> in cloud and require flexibility, reliability and scale. The
> platform needs a new programming model that's geared towards
> reactive style programming for building large-scale distributed
> applications that are loosely coupled. In addition, we would like
> to see HTTP/2, Config, State management, Eventual Consistency,
> Multi-tenancy, O-Auth and OpenID Connect get included in the
> platform.
>
> It is critical that Java EE reflect the needs of the community. We are
> preparing another community survey, similar to the survey we did in
> 2014 [3], to assess whether the community shares our views about
> what's needed in Java EE. We expect this survey to be available in
> the next few weeks. We'll also be looking at the results of other
> surveys and community input, and will be continuing our discussions
> with Java EE licensees. At JavaOne we'll be presenting our proposals
> for updates to Java EE and gathering feedback from attendees.
>
> After considering the results of our survey and other feedback, we'll
> adjust the plans for Java EE 8, with a goal of delivering Java EE 8
> within a year. Much of the initially planned work is nearly complete
> or well on its way, but new work will need to be done more quickly than
> usual. Obviously all desired work will not be able to be done in Java
> EE 8 and some planned work may no longer be important.
>
> This short schedule for Java EE 8 will allow us to move quickly into
> planning for Java EE 9, which will be able to take advantage of the
> Java SE 9 Jigsaw module system, and will give us more time for some of
> the larger improvements to the Java EE programming model.
>
> Stay tuned for more information about our community survey, and join us
> at JavaOne to hear more about our proposals for Java EE.
>
> Your opinion is valuable to us and we look forward to collaborating with
> you.
>
>
> [1]
> http://www.infoworld.com/article/3098007/java/oracle-
> to-reboot-java-ee-for-the-cloud.html
> [2]
> https://jcp.org/aboutJava/communityprocess/ec-public/
> materials/2016-08-09/August-2016-Public-Minutes.html
> [3] https://blogs.oracle.com/ldemichiel/
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Markus KARG <markus_at_headcrashing.eu>
> To: <jsr370-experts_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net>
> Cc:
> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 18:29:42 +0200
> Subject: [jax-rs-spec users] Re: [javaee-spec users] [jsr366-experts]
> update to Java EE 8 plan
>
> What does that mean for JSR 370? Apparently the original and updated
> schedules are overdue. Will the JSR get restarted? When? With what
> particular target functionality?
>
>
>
> -Markus
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Marek Potociar [mailto:marek.potociar_at_oracle.com]
> *Sent:* Dienstag, 23. August 2016 18:16
> *To:* jsr370-experts_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net; users_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net
> *Subject:* Fwd: [javaee-spec users] [jsr366-experts] update to Java EE 8
> plan
>
>
>
> FYI.
>
>
>
> Marek
>
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>
>
> *From: *Bill Shannon <bill.shannon_at_oracle.com>
>
> *Subject: [javaee-spec users] [jsr366-experts] update to Java EE 8 plan*
>
> *Date: *23 August 2016 at 02:05:23 GMT+2
>
> *To: *jsr366-experts_at_javaee-spec.java.net
>
> *Reply-To: *jsr366-experts_at_javaee-spec.java.net
>
>
>
> As many of you have read in the press [1], Oracle is reevaluating the
> scope and plans for Java EE 8. Based on the changes we've seen in the
> industry in recent years, we believe we need to do more to Java EE to
> make it better suited for developing the next generation of cloud
> and microservices applications.
>
> The current generation of enterprise Java applications is already well
> supported by Java EE 7 in cloud services provided by Oracle and
> others. As Anil Gaur said in his recent presentation to the JCP EC [2]:
>
> We would like the future of Java EE to be viable to next generation
> of applications. These apps are composed and deployed differently
> in cloud and require flexibility, reliability and scale. The
> platform needs a new programming model that's geared towards
> reactive style programming for building large-scale distributed
> applications that are loosely coupled. In addition, we would like
> to see HTTP/2, Config, State management, Eventual Consistency,
> Multi-tenancy, O-Auth and OpenID Connect get included in the
> platform.
>
> It is critical that Java EE reflect the needs of the community. We are
> preparing another community survey, similar to the survey we did in
> 2014 [3], to assess whether the community shares our views about
> what's needed in Java EE. We expect this survey to be available in
> the next few weeks. We'll also be looking at the results of other
> surveys and community input, and will be continuing our discussions
> with Java EE licensees. At JavaOne we'll be presenting our proposals
> for updates to Java EE and gathering feedback from attendees.
>
> After considering the results of our survey and other feedback, we'll
> adjust the plans for Java EE 8, with a goal of delivering Java EE 8
> within a year. Much of the initially planned work is nearly complete
> or well on its way, but new work will need to be done more quickly than
> usual. Obviously all desired work will not be able to be done in Java
> EE 8 and some planned work may no longer be important.
>
> This short schedule for Java EE 8 will allow us to move quickly into
> planning for Java EE 9, which will be able to take advantage of the
> Java SE 9 Jigsaw module system, and will give us more time for some of
> the larger improvements to the Java EE programming model.
>
> Stay tuned for more information about our community survey, and join us
> at JavaOne to hear more about our proposals for Java EE.
>
> Your opinion is valuable to us and we look forward to collaborating with
> you.
>
>
> [1]
> http://www.infoworld.com/article/3098007/java/oracle-
> to-reboot-java-ee-for-the-cloud.html
> [2]
> https://jcp.org/aboutJava/communityprocess/ec-public/
> materials/2016-08-09/August-2016-Public-Minutes.html
> [3] https://blogs.oracle.com/ldemichiel/
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Sergey Beryozkin <sberyozkin_at_talend.com>
> To: <jsr370-experts_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net>
> Cc:
> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 17:38:53 +0100
> Subject: [jax-rs-spec users] Re: [javaee-spec users] [jsr366-experts]
> update to Java EE 8 plan
> I think it means it will live.
> I'm not worried right now at all about the missed original schedules.
> We are moving slowly forward, Marek will look at publishing the very 1st
> early 2.1 API soon, and we will
> keep moving from there.
>
> Good news
>
> Sergey
> On 23/08/16 17:29, Markus KARG wrote:
>
> What does that mean for JSR 370? Apparently the original and updated
> schedules are overdue. Will the JSR get restarted? When? With what
> particular target functionality?
>
>
>
> -Markus
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Marek Potociar [mailto:marek.potociar_at_oracle.com
> <marek.potociar_at_oracle.com>]
> *Sent:* Dienstag, 23. August 2016 18:16
> *To:* jsr370-experts_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net; users_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net
> *Subject:* Fwd: [javaee-spec users] [jsr366-experts] update to Java EE 8
> plan
>
>
>
> FYI.
>
>
>
> Marek
>
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>
>
> *From: *Bill Shannon <bill.shannon_at_oracle.com>
>
> *Subject: [javaee-spec users] [jsr366-experts] update to Java EE 8 plan*
>
> *Date: *23 August 2016 at 02:05:23 GMT+2
>
> *To: *jsr366-experts_at_javaee-spec.java.net
>
> *Reply-To: *jsr366-experts_at_javaee-spec.java.net
>
>
>
> As many of you have read in the press [1], Oracle is reevaluating the
> scope and plans for Java EE 8. Based on the changes we've seen in the
> industry in recent years, we believe we need to do more to Java EE to
> make it better suited for developing the next generation of cloud
> and microservices applications.
>
> The current generation of enterprise Java applications is already well
> supported by Java EE 7 in cloud services provided by Oracle and
> others. As Anil Gaur said in his recent presentation to the JCP EC [2]:
>
> We would like the future of Java EE to be viable to next generation
> of applications. These apps are composed and deployed differently
> in cloud and require flexibility, reliability and scale. The
> platform needs a new programming model that's geared towards
> reactive style programming for building large-scale distributed
> applications that are loosely coupled. In addition, we would like
> to see HTTP/2, Config, State management, Eventual Consistency,
> Multi-tenancy, O-Auth and OpenID Connect get included in the
> platform.
>
> It is critical that Java EE reflect the needs of the community. We are
> preparing another community survey, similar to the survey we did in
> 2014 [3], to assess whether the community shares our views about
> what's needed in Java EE. We expect this survey to be available in
> the next few weeks. We'll also be looking at the results of other
> surveys and community input, and will be continuing our discussions
> with Java EE licensees. At JavaOne we'll be presenting our proposals
> for updates to Java EE and gathering feedback from attendees.
>
> After considering the results of our survey and other feedback, we'll
> adjust the plans for Java EE 8, with a goal of delivering Java EE 8
> within a year. Much of the initially planned work is nearly complete
> or well on its way, but new work will need to be done more quickly than
> usual. Obviously all desired work will not be able to be done in Java
> EE 8 and some planned work may no longer be important.
>
> This short schedule for Java EE 8 will allow us to move quickly into
> planning for Java EE 9, which will be able to take advantage of the
> Java SE 9 Jigsaw module system, and will give us more time for some of
> the larger improvements to the Java EE programming model.
>
> Stay tuned for more information about our community survey, and join us
> at JavaOne to hear more about our proposals for Java EE.
>
> Your opinion is valuable to us and we look forward to collaborating with
> you.
>
>
> [1]
> http://www.infoworld.com/article/3098007/java/oracle-
> to-reboot-java-ee-for-the-cloud.html
> [2]
> https://jcp.org/aboutJava/communityprocess/ec-public/
> materials/2016-08-09/August-2016-Public-Minutes.html
> [3] https://blogs.oracle.com/ldemichiel/
>
>
>
>
>
> End of digest for list users_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net - Wed, 24 Aug 2016
>
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