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[jax-rs-spec users] Re: Proposed Plan

From: Sergey Beryozkin <sberyozkin_at_talend.com>
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2015 09:43:28 +0100

I've found this post being very informative:

http://streamdata.io/blog/push-sse-vs-websockets/

Sergey
On 09/10/15 01:59, Bill Burke wrote:
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> On 10/8/2015 9:37 AM, Santiago Pericasgeertsen wrote:
>> Hi Julian,
>>
>>>>>> (3) SSE
>>>>>
>>>>> Are we sure this standard is being used? Its been more than a
>>>>> year (two?) since we've argued over it. Anybody know what is
>>>>> winning the "push" protocol wars?
>>>>
>>>> I’m not sure what “war” you are referring to. SSE is the only
>>>> standard for this. Of course, there are other techniques like long
>>>> polling, etc. but those are just clever hacks more than anything else.
>>>> ...
>>>
>>> HTTP/2 server push
>>> (<http://greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/rfc7540.html#PushResources>).
>>
>> This is much lower level support than SSE and I’m not aware of any
>> browser API for it like there is for SSE. I think of this as being
>> infrastructure-level rather than application-level. Maybe SSE can be
>> routed this way when HTTP/2 becomes ubiquitous, but we are talking
>> about an API here that would work regardless of how the bits are
>> transported.
>>
>>> And even Websockets…
>>
>> WS is not just push, although you can use it that way. We already
>> have an API in EE for that; however, it’s completely unrelated to
>> JAX-RS because it is not request-response and it is bidirectional
>> and, other than the handshake, not related to HTTP. If you just need
>> push, it is a lot simpler to use a JAX-RS extension for SSE (like
>> Jersey’s), and you can co-locate your logic with other resources.
>>
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> What I'm getting at with WebSockets and whatever HTTP/2 has that
> Julian mentioned, is SSE actually being used? Java EE has a habit of
> introducing stuff like this that ends up not being used and becomes a
> maintenance burden for us vendors.
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