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[jax-rs-spec users] Re: JSR 370 Updated Schedule

From: Santiago Pericasgeertsen <santiago.pericasgeertsen_at_oracle.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 08:57:17 -0400

Hi Sergey,

 You’re still on the list ;) The overall schedule for Java EE 8 has been revised [1], so we have a bit more time. We have been doing some work internally that we’ll be sharing shortly. Marek is on vacation now and will be in the few weeks; I hope to resume discussions towards the end of July. The plan is to have an EDR ready in time for JavaOne.

— Santiago

[1] https://blogs.oracle.com/theaquarium/entry/java_ee_8_roadmap_update <https://blogs.oracle.com/theaquarium/entry/java_ee_8_roadmap_update>

> On Jun 29, 2015, at 8:19 AM, Sergey Beryozkin <sberyozkin_at_talend.com> wrote:
>
> Hi All
>
> I'm a bit concerned that 6 months after the group started its work I've no idea what is happening, what the plans are.
> I actually was concerned I got unsubscribed :-), any chance some update can be posted ? I'm concerned that at some point we will just see the proposals coming in with the little time and scope left for doing the reasonable discussion
>
> Thanks, Sergey
>
>
> ________________________________________
> From: Sergey Beryozkin
> Sent: 21 April 2015 22:50
> To: jsr370-experts_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net
> Subject: Re: JSR 370 Updated Schedule
>
> Basically, it does not matter for CXF, as we won;t start a 2.1 work in
> the short term either way. But as I said, perhaps one should think about
> users who won't be able to move to Java 8 in the short or medium term
> On 21/04/15 22:47, Sergey Beryozkin wrote:
>> No, your analysis of what I was trying to say is misleading, but I'm not
>> going to try and convince you otherwise...
>>
>>
>> On 21/04/15 22:44, Markus KARG wrote:
>>> Yes, implicitly you suggested not to use Java 8 features, as your
>>> proposal
>>> would only work if we would know beforehand the result of the API changes
>>> needed for each planned feature, whether they might need Java 8 APIs
>>> or not.
>>> Hence I do not see that as a realistic option unless anybody can
>>> anticipate
>>> that for one particular feature Java 8 APIs are definitively not an
>>> option.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Sergey Beryozkin [mailto:sberyozkin_at_talend.com]
>>> Sent: Dienstag, 21. April 2015 22:04
>>> To: jsr370-experts_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net
>>> Subject: Re: JSR 370 Updated Schedule
>>>
>>> Of course if all the 2.1 features will absolutely need Java 8 then so
>>> be it,
>>> my point basically is that if we start from Java 8 and yet some 2.1
>>> features
>>> won't actually depend on Java 8 then I reckon the adoption of
>>> 2.1 will be prolonged...
>>> That said - may be some people still considering migrating from 1.1 to
>>> 2.0 :-), so I don;t know...
>>>
>>> Sergey
>>>
>>>
>>> On 21/04/15 20:50, Sergey Beryozkin wrote:
>>>> Have I suggested not to use Jave 8 features ? I don't think so...
>>>> Sergey
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 21/04/15 17:25, Markus KARG wrote:
>>>>> This might lead to worse API choices as it constraints us to not use
>>>>> new Java 8 features.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Sergey Beryozkin [mailto:sberyozkin_at_talend.com]
>>>>> Sent: Dienstag, 21. April 2015 12:59
>>>>> To: jsr370-experts_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net
>>>>> Subject: Re: JSR 370 Updated Schedule
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi
>>>>>
>>>>> As I've suggested earlier, it might make sense to start from working
>>>>> on JAX-RS 2.1 features that can still run with JDK 1.7 - simply to
>>>>> make the adoption of 2.1 faster for the existing JDK 1.7 users and
>>>>> get the features depending on Java 8 language features in the
>>>>> end/second half of the 2.1 development life-cycle. Not sure how
>>>>> realistic it is though
>>>>>
>>>>> Sergey
>>>>>
>>>>> On 13/04/15 20:42, Santiago Pericas-Geertsen wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Apr 13, 2015, at 1:21 PM, Markus KARG <markus_at_headcrashing.eu
>>>>>>> <mailto:markus_at_headcrashing.eu>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Santiago,
>>>>>>> can you please publish an updated schedule for JSR 370 as the
>>>>>>> original scheduled apparently is void already. It says there is an
>>>>>>> early draft in Q1/2015 and PR in Q3/2015, which apparently does not
>>>>>>> exist.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I will, once I get a chance to review it with Marek.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also I'd like to ask for clarification on Java 8: Will the new API
>>>>>>> support Lambdas and Streams, hence make the use of Java SE 8
>>>>>>> mandatory?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Possibly. We certainly want to take advantage of SE 8 features,
>>>>>> but we also feel that by the time EE 8 is out, SE 8 will be the
>>>>>> mainstream version. As a data point, I believe Oracle will not
>>>>>> provide any more public updates of SE 7 after this month.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Santiago
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sergey Beryozkin
>>>
>>> Talend Community Coders
>>> http://coders.talend.com/
>>>
>>> Blog: http://sberyozkin.blogspot.com
>>>
>>
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