Well, as our results will be the default for thousands of services, I think
it is good to discuss things now in this forum. :-)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sergey Beryozkin [mailto:sberyozkin_at_talend.com]
> Sent: Mittwoch, 3. August 2011 09:39
> To: jsr339-experts_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net
> Cc: 'Jan Algermissen'
> Subject: [jsr339-experts] Re: Hypermedia - Take 2
>
> Who could've thought the question of deciding whether @Ref/Absolute or
> @Ref/Relative should assume the default role would become such a hotly
> discussed issue :-)
>
>
> Cheers, Bergey
> ________________________________________
> From: Markus KARG [markus_at_headcrashing.eu]
> Sent: 02 August 2011 19:23Who could've thought the question of deciding
> whether @Ref/Absolute or @Ref/Relative should assume the default role
> would become that
> ________________________________________
> From: Markus KARG [markus_at_headcrashing.eu]
> Sent: 02 August 2011 19:23
> To: jsr339-experts_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net
> Cc: 'Jan Algermissen'
> Subject: [jsr339-experts] Re: Hypermedia - Take 2
>
> > Jan,
> >
> > The way I understand it, Sergey is just supporting the idea to make
> the
> > absolute references a default option in JAX-RS
> > API, so that by default the API can support also (potential) ill-
> > behaved clients. Such behavior is IMO a variation to
> > Postel's Law. Do you have any particular concerns with this?
> >
> > Marek
>
> You are proposing that we shall squander valueable resources out of the
> hypothetic risk that there might be a ill-behaving client? I would
> understand this if client and server would not have any knowledge of
> each other as it is typical in the web. But here, things are different.
> Client and Server actually need to share the same view of a RESTful
> service interface that is defined exactly by one party -- the
> application programmer. So if a client is not working with that server,
> is it in the interest of that programmer that it silently will work
> when squandering additional bandwith? I wouldn't it be more in the
> interest of the application programmer that bandwidth is saved and that
> one client programmer opens a case with the service provider, then
> learning about his fault?
>
>
> To: jsr339-experts_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net
> Cc: 'Jan Algermissen'
> Subject: [jsr339-experts] Re: Hypermedia - Take 2
>
> > Jan,
> >
> > The way I understand it, Sergey is just supporting the idea to make
> the
> > absolute references a default option in JAX-RS
> > API, so that by default the API can support also (potential) ill-
> > behaved clients. Such behavior is IMO a variation to
> > Postel's Law. Do you have any particular concerns with this?
> >
> > Marek
>
> You are proposing that we shall squander valueable resources out of the
> hypothetic risk that there might be a ill-behaving client? I would
> understand this if client and server would not have any knowledge of
> each other as it is typical in the web. But here, things are different.
> Client and Server actually need to share the same view of a RESTful
> service interface that is defined exactly by one party -- the
> application programmer. So if a client is not working with that server,
> is it in the interest of that programmer that it silently will work
> when squandering additional bandwith? I wouldn't it be more in the
> interest of the application programmer that bandwidth is saved and that
> one client programmer opens a case with the service provider, then
> learning about his fault?