that would make you number 4 of the present people...
Somehow, so far the stream of answers is very low-volume...
Besides the better local networking of JSF'ers the main advantage
I see is voicing the concerns of "real users" towards the
Expert Group gains additional weight, if these ideas are already
discussed in a user-group.
I still have hope...
regards
Alexander
-----Original Message-----
From: Roger.Kitain_at_Sun.COM [mailto:Roger.Kitain_at_Sun.COM]
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 2:35 PM
To: users_at_javaserverfaces.dev.java.net
Subject: Re: [Swiss JSF Users] JSF Special-Interest-Group Switzerland
I wish I could be there. I think establishing a JSF user group is a
great idea. I would love to see something like that take off in the
New England area.
-roger
>
>I need to know how big the room should be...
>So, if you are interested in coming, please tell me so.
>
>regards
>Alexander
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jesse Alexander (KSFD 121)
>Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 9:34 PM
>To: users_at_javaserverfaces.dev.java.net
>Subject: [Swiss JSF Users] JSF Special-Interest-Group Switzerland
>
>JSF is proving more and more competitive each day. A increasing number
>of
>companies are developing applications based on JSF.
>Often the same questions/problems/hints are valid for almost all users
>of
>JSF. Internationally some active communities have been established.
Last
>
>year a first encounter of JSF-entusiasts created the idea of "JSFDays
>Europe",
>a conference that allows to get in touch with the main players int he
>JSF-universe and to meet also informally. This first encounter took
>place
>in Munich, was organized on very short notice during the Oktoberfest.
An
>
>intense session with the JSF expert group lead Ed Burns allowed the
>users
>to voice their wishes for JSF 2.0 and regognize the "approachability"
of
>
>the JSF-people at Sun. Within Switzerland so far the contacts between
>the
>users are rather sporadic and more on a one-to-one basis.
>
>Hopefully some contacts have been added during the Jazoon-conference.
We
>
>would like to go one step further and establish the networking between
>Swiss-JSF users. An active community can help in solving problems or
>even
>create components that are usefull for some or all members. And in
>Switzerland we encounter some problems (like i18n, as most of our
>applications need to be available in multiple languages) that other
>international users do not encounter or encounter later or to a lesser
>extent.
>
>The JSF-specification is driven by requirements that are brought to the
>Expert Group discussing the specifications. So far much input has come
>from framework-architects, appserver-providers and tool-creators. It's
>about time the actual users let hear their voices as well. Although the
>expert group members can be contacted and have proven to be very
>responsive, requirements coming from an official user-group have more
>importance.
>
>Establishing a "JSF user group" as a independant community or a
>"special interest group" under the umbrella of the
>"JUGS (Java User Group Switzerland)" could be the outcome of this
>meeting.
>
>The underline the importance of "interaction" and communication for the
>community, we propose short presentations with much space for
>discussion.
>
>Date: Thursday, 2007-06-28 (right after the end of Jazoon 07)
>Place: Zurich, close to the location of Jazoon 07 (but not yet defined)
>
>Agenda:
>- 16:30 - 17:30: HTTP-GET interface into JSF-applications
> Presenter: Ed Burns
> Abstract: First ideas on the upcoming GET-interface into
> JSF-applications. ...
> 30 minutes presentation, 30 minutes discussion on
> these ideas and their implications on the applications
>
>- 17:30 - 18:30 (resp. open end): JSF, Quo Vadis?
> Presenter: Ed Burns, Alexander Jesse
> Abstract:
> - Where is JSF heading? The Expert Group is forming and
>discussing
> the next version of the JSF-spec right now.
> What are the ideas driving the EG?
> - Where is JSF heading in Switzerland? Can we say a User Group
>is
> forming right now? What could be the plans of this group?
Should
>
> it participate in the "JSFDays Europe" initiative?
>
>In order to plan the upcoming first meeting (room,...) we would
>appreciate
>feedback from all interested people. Also from those that cannot come
to
>
>the first meeting, but would welcome the foundation of the
>JSF Special-Interest-Group Switzerland.
>
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