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Re: EL: MethodExpressions

From: Ryan Lubke <Ryan.Lubke_at_Sun.COM>
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 08:41:09 -0700

Kito D. Mann wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ryan.Lubke_at_Sun.COM [mailto:Ryan.Lubke_at_Sun.COM]
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 1:28 PM
>> To: dev_at_javaserverfaces.dev.java.net
>> Subject: Re: EL: MethodExpressions
>>
>> Kito D. Mann wrote:
>>
>>> How about just updating the EL spec? Ryan, are there any plans to update
>>>
>> it?
>>
>>> I'd really love to see method support added..
>>>
>>>
>> Sorry for the delay. I needed to verify the current plans with regards
>> to the EL from the spec lead. Right now there are no plans for an MR
>> or full JSR.'
>>
>
> Yikes. Is there any way to change that decision? I'd be happy with just
> method support (because everyone I teach or work with wants it).
>
It may be too late at this point.

One possible alternative though is take the Seam approach and
leverage the fact that the EL is pluggable. If the JSF 2.0 EG
decides new features are necessary, then we can include an
alternate EL implementation.




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>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Jacob Hookom [mailto:jacob_at_hookom.net]
>>>> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 7:38 PM
>>>> To: dev_at_javaserverfaces.dev.java.net
>>>> Subject: Re: EL: MethodExpressions
>>>>
>>>> You could try the JBoss EL Impl-- I can't remember, but I think I
>>>> modified it to allow stuff like that.
>>>>
>>>> Kito D. Mann wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hmmm.. I haven't seen any indication of a new version of JSP or the EL
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> spec
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> anytime soon....
>>>>>
>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>> Kito D. Mann - Author, JavaServer Faces in Action
>>>>> http://www.virtua.com - JSF/Java EE consulting, training, and
>>>>>
>> mentoring
>>
>>>>> http://www.JSFCentral.com - JavaServer Faces FAQ, news, and info
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>>>>> fax: +1 203-653-2988
>>>>>
>>>>> Come to the first annual JSFOne Conference this September! Visit
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Ryan.Lubke_at_Sun.COM [mailto:Ryan.Lubke_at_Sun.COM]
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 1:27 PM
>>>>>> To: dev_at_javaserverfaces.dev.java.net
>>>>>> Subject: Re: EL: MethodExpressions
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ah,
>>>>>>> I thought you guys are steakholder for both.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sure, the JSF EG will offer input on the EL spec, but it's best to
>>>>>>
>> get
>>
>>>>>> the issue on their
>>>>>> books so it isn't lost.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Matthias
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 8:11 AM, Ryan Lubke <Ryan.Lubke_at_sun.com>
>>>>>>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I know, this is invalid:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> action="#{bean.text == 'ABC' ? bean.myNiceMethod :
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> bean.myOddMethod}"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> but, wouldn't it be kinda interesting to have that possibility as
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> well
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Matthias
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Since the EL is under the JSP spec at this point, log your spec
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> enhancements
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [1] so they are on record.
>>>>>>>> https://jsp-spec-public.dev.java.net
>>>>>>>>
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