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[jsr344-experts mirror] Re: JSF MVC?

From: <andy.bosch_at_jsf-forum.de>
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 10:05:42 +0000

  Hi there,

I think that most of the use cases described could perfectly be
realized using JSF 2.2 features.

The problem I observe is often that people are not familiar with
all the recent JSF features that were added to the spec.

If we would enhance JSF with further possibilities regarding an
action-based framework, there is a risk of "overloading" JSF.

Of course I am in favour of enhancing JSF according to user
feedback. But I am not sure whether it is a good idea to integrate
too much into it.

Regards,
Andy

------ Originalnachricht ------
Von: "arjan tijms" <arjan.tijms_at_gmail.com>
An: users_at_javaserverfaces-spec-public.java.net
Gesendet: 28.02.2014 23:14:52
Betreff: [jsr344-experts mirror] JSF MVC?

>Hi there,
>
>Many of you have undoubtedly read Manfred's blog about the action based
>prototype in Mojarra. For those who haven't yet, it's at
>https://weblogs.java.net/blog/mriem/archive/2014/01/13/jsf-tip-56-using-action-based-prototype-mojarra
>
>This very same prototype is now also referred to as one of the 3
>possible options in part 3 of the Java EE 8 survey concerning "An
>additional web MVC framework".
>
>From the previous part of the survey it became clear that people are
>interested in the action based topic, but that there's no clear
>consensus whether this should be an upgraded JAX-RS, the
>standardization of Spring MVC or something else. That something else
>might thus just as well be an upgraded JSF (as I argued for last year
>here:
>https://java.net/projects/javaee-spec/lists/users/archive/2013-10/message/5)
>
>I thus wonder what everyone's opinion is about this prototype Manfred
>created.
>
>Clearly it's a prototype. Things like parameter injection have not been
>added yet and some (core?) details like how to exactly identify request
>parameters submitted by existing components have not been entirely
>fleshed out yet.
>
>But, do you think this is the way forward for JSF?
>
>Kind regards,
>Arjan Tijms
>
>