Personally, I see this all as good news and healthy debate. I am glad to see good Java EE stewardship from Oracle and will try to support any effort that seems at least reasonably community focused. You may be aware that the Java EE Guardians and DZone have partnered to create this entirely community driven survey: http://www.surveygizmo.com/s3/2956644/74623d186163. We will close this survey on September 7th. We will make the results and analysis available shortly thereafter. I hope that will be helpful to the expert group. I will certainly be at JavaOne and hope to be able to wholeheartedly cheer on your efforts. Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone