It is great to see some responses from Oracle on the Repeatable Annotation
support for Java EE 8. I agree that this would be an essential addition to
better align Java EE 8 APIs with Java SE 8.
I think that all relevant specs should be minimally updated with feature
support to facilitate better alignment with Java SE 8. Even if there are
no other new features added to some of the specifications, a Maintenance
Release to support better alignment is a must for making Java EE 8, as a
whole, successful.
Josh Juneau
juneau001_at_gmail.com
http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:11 PM, Reza Rahman <reza_rahman_at_lycos.com> wrote:
> I have to agree we need to do better on this. In this case, Rahman is
> basically volunteering to do this in the community for free. I am also
> happy to help on this as are many others.
>
>
> On 5/17/2016 4:55 PM, arjan tijms wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Thanks for the quick response
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 10:33 PM, Linda DeMichiel <
> <linda.demichiel_at_oracle.com>linda.demichiel_at_oracle.com> wrote:
>>
>> However, we are not planning to update specs that would not be updated
>> except for repeating annotations.
>>
>
> If you mean that just repeating annotations would be too small for a MR,
> then I'm sure that for the majority of those specs some additional small
> additions or clarifications can be found. From what I've witnessed in the
> past, a MR can be completed in a relatively small amount of time, can't it?
>
> Slightly offtopic, or perhaps not, but I have to say that waiting for
> individual specs to plan an update for something that is in fact part of a
> bigger topic or epic, is a bit of a non-optimal point in the Java EE spec
> and JCP process.
>
> We strived in the past to split out several concerns to individual specs.
> This is often a good thing indeed, but if it turns out to be so difficult
> now to add tiny small things to a whole slew of specs, because for each a
> planning needs to be in place that is not there, then this is perhaps not
> so much of an improvement.
>
> For example, if JSF still had its own EL, we (JSF EG) could fairly
> trivially make a small change there. But now EL is a separate spec, and
> just because there is no update for it planned, that exact same code change
> suddenly becomes practically impossible. Not because of a technical
> challenge, but because of administrative obstacles.
>
> I think it was never quite the idea to intentionally put those roadblocks
> in place, was it?
>
> Kind regards,
> Arjan Tijms
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> For example, the Common Annotations MR that I'm planning to
>>> submit to address the @Priority change requested by CDI 2.0 will also
>>> address repeating annotations for @Resource and
>>> @DataSourceDefinition.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sounds good, thanks!
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Arjan Tijms
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Linda
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/17/16 12:57 PM, Reza Rahman wrote:
>>>
>>> Bit disappointing not to hear from a few more experts on this and
>>> specifically the Oracle leads. This should be easy to
>>> incorporate into
>>> the RI and simultaneously an important area to align Java EE 8
>>> with Java
>>> SE 8.
>>>
>>> On 5/11/2016 8:29 AM, arjan tijms wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> This should principally fit in perfectly with Java EE 8. The
>>> JSR has
>>> "Alignment with Java SE 8" as one of the major topics. See
>>> https://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=366
>>>
>>> I think each constituent spec has to be addresses
>>> separately. As
>>> you've signed the OCA, then if I'm not mistaken you can do
>>> PRs or send
>>> patches to all the RI projects this concerns. E.g. for JSF
>>> you can
>>> send me (or another Mojarra committer) the patch or send a
>>> PR to my
>>> Github working repo.
>>>
>>> One problem may be that not all specs are active at the
>>> moment (don't
>>> have an EG at the moment), so if any of those are affected I
>>> think at
>>> least a MR for them should be started then.
>>>
>>> Wonder what the thoughts of others and specifically the spec
>>> leads are
>>> about this.
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Arjan Tijms
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Rahman USTA
>>> <rahman.usta.88_at_gmail.com <mailto:rahman.usta.88_at_gmail.com>
>>> <mailto:rahman.usta.88_at_gmail.com
>>> <mailto:rahman.usta.88_at_gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Java EE has some annotations that they can work as
>>> repeatable
>>> annotations. I think Java EE 8 should target at least
>>> Java 8 and I
>>> don't see any reason to support repeatable annotation
>>> feature for
>>> Java EE 8.
>>>
>>> I worked on required changes on current Glassfish 5
>>> version and
>>> I'm ready to commit required changes to each specs.
>>>
>>> What are your opinions for this feature request? How
>>> can we move
>>> forward this?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Rahman USTA
>>> Istanbul JUG
>>> https://github.com/rahmanusta
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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