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[javaee-spec users] [jsr342-experts] Re: CDI in Application Client Container

From: Antonio Goncalves <antonio.goncalves_at_gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 21:22:36 +0100

Brilliant !


On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 8:54 PM, Bill Shannon <bill.shannon_at_oracle.com>wrote:

> Yes, thanks Pete. This is relatively easy to do and will meet our needs
> for now.
>
> While I recognize that the ACC isn't widely used, we have no plans to prune
> it and adding CDI support emphasizes how important we think CDI is to the
> Java EE programming model.
>
> Pete Muir wrote on 12/13/12 05:59:
> > Bill and I have agreed to basic support for CDI in the ACC - just app
> scope and dependent scope for now.
> >
> > On 13 Dec 2012, at 14:57, Antonio Goncalves wrote:
> >
> >> I just think this can't stay as it is at the moment. We are trying to
> emphasis CDI in Java EE and it's not working in ACC. So, either we make CDI
> work in ACC or we prune ACC. Either it works well, or we stop supporting it.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Markus Eisele <myfear_at_web.de> wrote:
> >> +1 for "CDI should work in ACC"
> >>
> >> - M
> >>
> >> On 7 December 2012 21:32, Antonio Goncalves <
> antonio.goncalves_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> One thing is "is ACC used in the industry ?" and I think we all agree
> that
> >>> it's not. The other thing is "the spec says the CDI works in ACC". So
> either
> >>> the TCK makes sure it does (and everybody implements it), or we prune
> it, or
> >>> we say "CDI should work in ACC"
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 8:31 PM, Jim Knutson <knutson_at_us.ibm.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> eisele.markus_at_gmail.com wrote on 11/20/2012 01:42:10 AM:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> short feedback: I haven't seen much ACC out there until today.
> >>>>> Native clients are still somehow rare and most of the native java
> >>>>> clients rely on decoupled interfaces (WS/REST).
> >>>>> No need to put any efforts into the ACC if you ask me.
> >>>>
> >>>> +1
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't see enough industry usage to warrant a lot of effort here. If
> >>>> anything, we should be enabling "thin client" models that allows apps
> to
> >>>> embed EE container and service functionality as needed.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Jim Knutson
> >>>> WebSphere Java EE Architect
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Antonio Goncalves
> >>> Software architect and Java Champion
> >>>
> >>> Web site | Twitter | LinkedIn | Paris JUG | Devoxx France
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Antonio Goncalves
> >> Software architect and Java Champion
> >>
> >> Web site | Twitter | LinkedIn | Paris JUG | Devoxx France
> >
>
>


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