[javaee-spec users] Re: In reference the logging suggestion on @experts

From: Christian Grobmeier <>
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 14:27:25 +0200

Hello Antonio,

On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Antonio Goncalves
<> wrote:
> As I said, I'm not a logging API expert and would never start such a JSR.
> I'm just a developer who things I can bring value to my customers' projects
> and stop wasting time in changing log implementation every time. As I've
> already expressed several times in this group, I am against standardizing
> too soon, but I think Logging is mature enough and should be standardize.

yes, I understood that. I think without an interest or a pushing from
the jee experts group it is unlikely that something will happen.
Anyway.. just because I am curious. Can everybody (who joined the JCP)
create a JSR?

> Christian, if you think Ralph Goers is an important player, I am more than
> happy to contact him if you give me his email address.

Sure! Its available here:

Please let me know if I can help further.

best regards,

> Thanks for your email
> Antonio
> On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 12:23 PM, <> wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I just read:
>> lead/
>> I am member of the Apache Logging project and thus have a good insight
>> on the implementation log4j and others.
>> In the mentioned blog post Antonio says log4j is not updated. But this
>> is wrong. log4j 2 has been reeleased in version 2.0. This is a major
>> step forward since it does address many issues which are important to
>> the JEE world.
>> Ralph Goers was the main driver of this implementation. In my opinion
>> he is an incredible team player and excellent developer who thought
>> about the new log4j API for I think 3 yrs. For german speakers, I wrote
>> an article on it in the current JavaMagazin.
>> Therefore I would like to suggest that you ask him directly if he would
>> become the specification lead as he has - in my opinion - the one of
>> the best understanding of logging requirements.
>> If this JSR is accepted, I will gladly join the efforts too.
>> Furthermore I might think that others in the Apache Logging project are
>> interested the same way.
>> Personally I think a standard would be to our all benefit.
>> That all being said I want to express this e-mail is a personal one
>> which expresses my own view and not the view of the Apache Logging
>> project. Others at Apache logging might think different and I am not
>> sure if Ralph is available for such a role.
>> Best regards,
>> Christian
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