[javaee-spec users] Re: -experts list

From: Craig Ringer <>
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 22:27:07 +0800

On 07/27/2012 10:13 PM, Lance Andersen - Oracle wrote:
> There has always been a way for individuals to provide feedback who
> are not part of the EG prior to JCP 2.8. I have tried to respond to
> those queries/requests that either have come to the EG mailing list or
> directly to me. I am continuing to clean things up as I can within
> the JDBC spec as I know there are areas that need clarity, but it
> takes time and in some cases reaching agreement as when there were
> areas that were not clear, some vendors chose different paths. We
> have tried to be better and will continue to work towards improving
> the spec to the best we can.
Of course; no spec is perfect, and no issues get magically cleaned up in
a day without time and effort. Thanks for all the time you put in.

For what it's worth, as a user I've personally found the JDBC spec to be
clear, easy to read and helpful when I've needed to refer to it - which
has been rarely because of the good JavaDoc and API. It's a valuable
resource and one I appreciate. Working with EE I've learned to really
appreciate the difference a good spec makes and how frustrating a less
solid one can be.

Frustrations will always arise with implementers of any spec, and more
recently when I've seen people complaining I've generally asked them to
think about bugging the EG rather than just complaining. The same reason
I'm making a pest of myself here.

Craig Ringer