[jsr342-experts] Re: Minimal profile ?

From: Werner Keil <werner.keil_at_gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 23:46:16 +0200


Interesting idea. How big is the difference between what you propose and
the Web Profile, e.g. the TomEE server meets?

EE 7 could offer a limited set of Modularity, but when the decision was
made to drop Modularity from the Java 7 Platform due to the complications
and challenges, the OpenJDK team is facing up until this day, I was among
the first to point out the negative impact this would have on EE to then
Spec Lead Roberto, and others, particularly EC Members present.
Further Modularity or additional profiles may only work if the foundation
really became modular. We hope and trust that's going to be EE8 or any EE
that can use Java (8) Modularity.

Am 29.06.2012 23:35 schrieb "Antonio Goncalves" <antonio.goncalves_at_gmail.com

> Hi all,
> Four years ago, when we were building Java EE 6, we had this idea of a
> minimal profile that Roberto blogged about (
> http://weblogs.java.net/blog/robc/archive/2008/02/profiles_in_the.html).
> The idea was to standardise "Tomcat-like" application servers with a
> minimal profile containing Servlets and JSPs. So we would have had this
> "minimal" profile, the web profile and the full one. We mostly voted no on
> this minimal profile, and I was one of them.
> I've spent the week migrating a JSF 1.2 application running on Tomcat to
> JBoss 6 EAP (which comes with JSF 2.0). Now I'm trying to run an
> application with JAX-RS 2.0 running on GlassFish 3.x (which comes with
> JAX-RS 1.1). On both cases, it's hell. This would be easier if I could have
> used a JBoss 6 EAP Minimal Profile (or a GlassFish 3.x Minimal Profile) and
> bundle my own external jars like I do with Tomcat. If we want applications
> to migrate to Java EE application servers, one ease of use would be to have
> just a servlet container. And it will give a nice migration plan to
> application : e.g. "migrate from Tomcat to JBoss Minimal profile, and then
> when you are used to your new application server, move to a Web Profile and
> start adding other Java EE modules".
> I think having a new "Minimal Profile" (a better name would be a "Servlet
> Profile" with just Servlets, EL and JSP) would increase modularity in
> application servers and help applications to migrate to Java EE.
> What would you think of introducing a new profile in Java EE 7 ?
> Antonio